Saddam Hussein has been executed

[mitchcumstein]

Isnt it amazing how these political or religious debates brings obscure posters out of the woodwork. posters that obviously arent here for weightlifting purposes when this is a BB board.

[Taekwondo Guy]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Isnt it amazing how these political or religious debates brings obscure posters out of the woodwork. posters that obviously arent here for weightlifting purposes when this is a BB board.

lmao, too true

how did i know this would turn into an american policy/bush thread?
just keep the noise down in this thread as hawkwind has a head ache...

i watched the blurry full video on youtube, nice to see they put the knot under the chin...clean break of the neck

[mywetnightmares]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

This is a bit long winded and i know some of u may think its total crap, but heres my opinion.

What many people fail to recognise is that there are world leaders farrr worse than saddam ever was still in power.

Your point, they should be next in line.

Leaders of zimbabwe, russia, israel, and many more who have also done far worse crimes against humanity than saddam. (and still do so)

Zimbabwe, I don't know enough about. Russia, yes. Israel...umm no, not in the least.

The crimes that saddam was tried for, these crimes against humanity were not stopped by the us in the years that they happened, america just stood by and only said enuffs' enuff when saddam went for kuwait! (oil fields... )

At least we did something, would you rather have us sit on our asses and do nothing ever?

So why did they feel the sudden urge to do so now?

Because Bush has the balls to do something about it now rather than let all the pvssy Euro-trash and hippies tell him not to meddle in other people's business.

Regardless of what saddam did its plain and simple, it wernt non of anybodies business then... and it aint now!. American sanctions on iraq over the passed decades have led to 600,000+ deths alone!.

Yeah, you tell the father who was forced to watch his wife and daughters raped by government officials that it isn't anybody's business, there's no problem here, nobody needs to help you. As far as the sanctions go, that was Saddam's responsibility to feed his people, he was the head of state, instead he chose to starve his people so that he could A.) use their deaths as anti-American propaganda and B.) divert money to his military and weapons research.

Secondly, the whole thing aint justified. America went in to find WMD'S , and ended up playing samaritan. So with their occupation not justified in the country, how can any of their actions be?

All I'm gonna say about the WMD is this, if you were a drug dealer and had about 50 Kilos of coke in your house and you knew that the DEA knew, and the DEA told you they were going to come in and clear out your place, would you leave the the coke in your place or would you take it over to your buddy's place for safe keeping?

And lastly, i heard a press report sayin that george dubya hoped that this would fnally bring peace in iraq....

A monkey could tell you thats b.s.

The country barely has any law or order present at the moment, and how on earth is this going to solve anything!? Rather its gonna spark further tension.

How's it gonna solve anything? Well for one you don't have Saddam running Iraq anymore. I guarantee you that there are plenty of Iraqis that can sleep better at night now that he's dead. Don't believe me? Did you see the video of everyone dancing and partying in the streets when they finally hung him?

Now i ain't now conspiracy theorist but i have got one thing.... common sense. Any noob can work out that non of wats happened is of any benefit to the iraqi nation, but is in the best interests of america.

...Oil.

Thanks for readin guys.

Umm no, you don't have common sense, you also don't have critical thinking skills, or good fact finding skills. You also have no skills when it comes to viewing reality as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

[Awais_uk]

At least we did something, would you rather have us sit on our asses and do nothing ever?

America only did anything when it was in their best interests do so (i.e. protect the assets which they were going to forcefully take)

Because Bush has the balls to do something about it now rather than let all the pvssy Euro-trash and hippies tell him not to meddle in other people's business.

and it took him this long?

Yeah, you tell the father who was forced to watch his wife and daughters raped by government officials that it isn't anybody's business, there's no problem here, nobody needs to help you. As far as the sanctions go, that was Saddam's responsibility to feed his people, he was the head of state, instead he chose to starve his people so that he could A.) use their deaths as anti-American propaganda and B.) divert money to his military and weapons research.

Like what makes US soldiers any different? They didnt go in and commit acts just as bad if not worse? Abu Ghraib (Ghuraib) Prison, google it and you'll find all the info u need.

All I'm gonna say about the WMD is this, if you were a drug dealer and had about 50 Kilos of coke in your house and you knew that the DEA knew, and the DEA told you they were going to come in and clear out your place, would you leave the the coke in your place or would you take it over to your buddy's place for safe keeping?

He probably did, well yeh he did! but proving its another thing...
All im gonna say is.... innocent till PROVEN guilty...

How's it gonna solve anything? Well for one you don't have Saddam running Iraq anymore. I guarantee you that there are plenty of Iraqis that can sleep better at night now that he's dead. Don't believe me? Did you see the video of everyone dancing and partying in the streets when they finally hung him?

Err i guess u ain't seen the more recent vids of whole cities of protesters with ak's, klashnekovs and bad tempers...

Umm no, you don't have common sense, you also don't have critical thinking skills, or good fact finding skills. You also have no skills when it comes to viewing reality as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

Its called an opinion, u dont like it? i dont care.

U cant justify what aint justified.

And insulting someone is just low, im trying have a more debate, not insult peoples intelligence.

[mywetnightmares]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

America only did anything when it was in their best interests do so (i.e. protect the assets which they were going to forcefully take)

You never answered my question, would you rather have us sit on our asses and do nothing?

and it took him this long?

He would have done it a lot sooner if he didn't have to worry about consulting the rest of the world, which in my opinion was unnecessary.

[QUOTE/]Like what makes US soldiers any different? They didnt go in and commit acts just as bad if not worse? Abu Ghraib (Ghuraib) Prison, google it and you'll find all the info u need.[/quote]

I actually wrote a paper on Abu Ghraib so yes I know all about it. I don't like what was going on there nor do I like how the situation was handled, it was a leadership and human rights failure from the level of the CO on down to the E-2's and E-3's that knew it was happening.

That doesn't mean you can compare the two situations. Think about this, Saddam ordered stuff like what happened at Abu Ghraib as a routine, hundreds of thousands of people died with their blood on his hands. And the real difference is that he did it to protect himself and his interests. We went into Iraq for a number of reasons, none of which included protecting Bush's power in this country.

He probably did, well yeh he did! but proving its another thing...
All im gonna say is.... innocent till PROVEN guilty...

And would you like to flip on the news one day and find out that your proof was used to kill your mother or your wife or your children while you were at work and would you like to come home to an empty house because you finally got your proof and that proof killed your family?

Err i guess u ain't seen the more recent vids of whole cities of protesters with ak's, klashnekovs and bad tempers...

Um no I haven't, I have seen people celebrating his death because they no longer must worry about him returning to power and slaughtering their families. If there are people protesting then it's a minority, the majority of people in Iraq are glad that we took him out of power.

Its called an opinion, u dont like it? i dont care.

U cant justify what aint justified.

And insulting someone is just low, im trying have a more debate, not insult peoples intelligence.

I don't care if you have an opinion, I'm glad you do. I stand by my statement though, you have no critical thinking skills and in this situation you're looking at the world as you'd like it to be rather than how it is.

[Taekwondo Guy]

this thread was about saddam's execution, it has evolved into america's policy in Iraq and human rights...

it is not about a member's ability to debate, present the facts as best you can without flames or put downs or this thread hits the dirt nap.

[narcsarge]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

this thread was about saddam's execution, it has evolved into america's policy in Iraq and human rights...

it is not about a member's ability to debate, present the facts as best you can without flames or put downs or this thread hits the dirt nap.

***Goes for the rope ***

[mywetnightmares]

My bad, won't do it again. I still don't retract my statement however.

[POWERJIM]

At last ive found a full video of Saddams Execution in which you can see his dead body strung up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tVG5_F5Ado

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by iwannaplaylock

but the ironic part is that the US supplied the chemical weapons like nerve gas and sh!t that he used to kill his own people...

blah, blah, blah, I've hear this chit countless times. It's not like we supplied him with weapons for him to use on his own people and for mass genocide. We supplied him with weapons so he could fight a common enemy, Iran.

[tryin2gain]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

blah, blah, blah, I've hear this chit countless times. It's not like we supplied him with weapons for him to use on his own people and for mass genocide. We supplied him with weapons so he could fight a common enemy, Iran.

Cause thats so much better.

We also supplied afghanistan warriors with weapons to defeat the soviets. At the time, they were a bigger threat.