Any software developers here?

[virus]

If so, what programming languages are you talented with?


Im taking C++, Java and Visual Basic.

I regret taking VB seeing its not really a OOP oriented language even tho they try for it to be. I love Java and C++ tho, i wish I would have took C# instead of VB =[

[theara]

i'm absolutely clueless when it comes to programming. I should have taken computer science in high school, so i wouldn't be worried about taking it in college. I need to learn some languages for the sake of beeing able to keep my job with everyone now learning computer languages

[NPayette]

C#, Java, C++, Vb.Net, MFC.

[Bodymass]

Originally Posted by virus

If so, what programming languages are you talented with?


Im taking C++, Java and Visual Basic.

I regret taking VB seeing its not really a OOP oriented language even tho they try for it to be. I love Java and C++ tho, i wish I would have took C# instead of VB =[

I'm a sys / netadmin, but I do some freelance programming on the side (there was a short period I was a full time dev, but I got tired of it)

I detest Visual basic and I loath Java. LOL
Visual basic teaches programmers bad habits in my opninon. But if I get started on that, I'll finish writing by the second coming.

.Java..eugh..very bloated. It's nice to know it since you can land a job relatively easily. I like how the object refrences are done.
However, what I can't stand for is using the guise of "portability" for the bloat of the virtual machine.

C++ I like very much.:P

As for what other languages I know (but haven't written in while)

Pyhton
C
Ruby
Perl
Lisp

[Traps]

I've studied.....
PL1
Mainframe and pc assembler
Fortran
ADA

Self Taught
Visual Basic
DataBus


I think thats it.... I also got .net and visual c++ havent installed or messed around with it.

[virus]

Oops yeah my Visual Basic is .NET Vb, should'uve mentioned that.


theara, go learn a language! lol

Mind you, I know alot of self-taught programmers. Just get a good book and your set for the most part.


I find it funny that people think programming is easy. Just connect words with words and you have a program... Easier said than done.

[Traps]

Originally Posted by virus

Oops yeah my Visual Basic is .NET Vb, should'uve mentioned that.


theara, go learn a language! lol

Mind you, I know alot of self-taught programmers. Just get a good book and your set for the most part.


I find it funny that people think programming is easy. Just connect words with words and you have a program... Easier said than done.

Those are the same people that think setting their vcr for a timer recording is called programming....haha

[jlozan84]

Originally Posted by Bodymass

I'm a sys / netadmin

What area? I'm an engineer as well......

Sorry guys, but I detest most developers.......they all think they know everything about the friggin' network and server architecture yet write bloated ass progs with very little testing, many missing features from a user perspective, and an absolute nightmare from a server admin/security engineer point of view.

[warri0r87]

Originally Posted by jlozan84

What area? I'm an engineer as well......

Sorry guys, but I detest most developers.......they all think they know everything about the friggin' network and server architecture yet write bloated ass progs with very little testing, many missing features from a user perspective, and an absolute nightmare from a server admin/security engineer point of view.

the skills of some leave little to desire...

i used to b heavy in computers, i had dabbled around with 14 languages up to one point..just basic syntax and basic scripts etc. IMO, once u know one, u know them all...hell, computer security is how i get interested in philosophy (long story, so i wont bother ).

i like perl, c++, think java's crap, dont mind php, used to know a little python.

but what u should b doing is some assembly...i think i started to try and learn that ****...

have a look at some sample code if u can find it...its old-school, takes longer to code, but atleast u have better control on how it works through the system .

i leave all this stuff alone now, kinda wish i still had the time to take it up again .

[Bodymass]

Originally Posted by jlozan84

What area? I'm an engineer as well......

Sorry guys, but I detest most developers.......they all think they know everything about the friggin' network and server architecture yet write bloated ass progs with very little testing, many missing features from a user perspective, and an absolute nightmare from a server admin/security engineer point of view.

Platform you mean? At the moment (to my great sadness) we're running Server 2k3. My previous employer was running (Free)BSD. I've admin'd on a lot of platforms..The only one I haven't had the pleasure yet to try out is Mac.
Even did some old school stuff like OS/400.

On occasion I did some pen-testing, so I feel your pain jlozan..

A question to all of you fellow nerds (hah!)

Has anyone taken a CCIE Lab recently? What was your experiance with it?

(Sorry for hijacking your thread Virus. )

[joe526]

Originally Posted by Bodymass

Platform you mean? At the moment (to my great sadness) we're running Server 2k3. My previous employer was running (Free)BSD. I've admin'd on a lot of platforms..The only one I haven't had the pleasure yet to try out is Mac.
Even did some old school stuff like OS/400.

On occasion I did some pen-testing, so I feel your pain jlozan..

A question to all of you fellow nerds (hah!)

Has anyone taken a CCIE Lab recently? What was your experiance with it?

(Sorry for hijacking your thread Virus. )

We have about 150 macs and about 3500+ Pc's. Over the summer we finally put up two mac servers and integrated it with active directory. Works pretty well and only a few minor bugs, but at least now we can track the students on the mac which we weren't able to do before and map them to their home folder. I hate macs though.