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Old 05-17-2006, 07:58 AM
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Default WHY are antiestrogens making boobs Bigger? UNWANTED INCREASE!

Why, why can't I find an anti-estrogenic product that doesn't make my boobs bigger? this is ridiculous! And it's not just me apparently, below is a quote on the studies of one such product, an herb called Saw Palmetto.

I had the same problem with a supplement called calcium-D-Glucarate, that is supposed to help the body eliminate excess estrogen.

Why, why, in the facts in the next paragraph, if it "has anti-estrogenic properties by action on receptors" and "lowers cytosol and nuclear receptor values for estrogen, which result in an anti-estrogen effect", why then is it ALSO "used extensively by women that wish to enhance their bust size"? Those facts contradict each other. And I tested it out - it did. I have always had low body fat yet have too-big boobs as it is, and they friggen got even bigger.

"Saw palmetto has ... anti-estrogenic properties by action on receptors" and it "lowers cytosol and nuclear receptor values for estrogen, which result in an anti-estrogen effect" "Saw Palmetto has been used extensively by women that wish to enhance their bust size"
(DiSilverio, 1992) "...Thus by blocking nuclear receptor sites, the bodies own natural estrogen [goes up]"
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:24 AM
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Are they really that much of a problem? If they are then stop taking them. I does seem strange that an anti-estrogen would make your breasts get bigger though...
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thats awsome..... I need to pick up some saw palmetto for my wife
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I know if you have naturally low estrogen, your body will over-compensate by producing test.

I don't know for a fact, but maybe if your levels are normal to high, the reduction of estrogen also reduces the test. levels (since ideally they are balanced), leaving the ratio of est. to test. the same or even the est. higher??

Birth control or other synthetic estrogens may not be effected the same as natural estrogen in your body, so you may be decreasing your natural levels and not your synthetic ones??

I'll see if I can't find more on this.
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That doesn't make any sense. Anti-E's are generally sought after (by women) for their "fat-burning" properties. Not that they burn-fat, per se, but many women will use them in precontest time to block estrogen receptors and in turn help lower typical "female fat pattern areas" especially butt/thigh area. As well, generally speaking, when overall bodyfat goes down, so do your boobies (unfortunately). Anti-e's like tamoxifen or proviron will NOT increase boob size.

If your receptors for estrogen are being BLOCKED...it doens't matter HOW much estrogen you have floating around. Perfect example why one would taper OFF nolva.

Why are you taking anti-e's?
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGirl
"Saw Palmetto has been used extensively by women that wish to enhance their bust size"
[goes up]"
PS- this is gobbledegook.... To enhance bust size, one needs to get a boob job or gain weight (overall bodyfat).
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anti-e stuff helped to diminish my bust size...this was not wanted either!
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