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Why is this happening?
Why is it when I eat clean all week (by clean I mean only whole grains, alot of fruits and vegetables, no sugar, water/sparkling water, and a protein at each meal), the scale BARELY moves or does not move at all! YET, if I go out to eat once that week, or eat a few girl scout cookies, or in my case yesterday one of those cadbury easter eggs I lose 1-2 pounds and keep it off?!?! It's extremely frustrating and very baffling to me! It's like I am in a cycle. I'll lose the weight from 'cheating' then I eat really clean b/c I want to maintain the weight loss and don't lose anything, so I get frustrated and say f' it and eat a damn cookie (it's usually almost always sweets for me not fried foods or fast foods or anything like that) anyway and then i'll lose weight! WTH!!!!! I just don't know what to do. I want a consistent weight loss every week and right now I feel as if I don't know my body well enough to achieve that. I gained alot of weight battling thyroid issues, depression, and injuries from a really bad accident a few years ago. I started out this year thinking positive and wanting to do better for myself and I am running into this stumbling block.
Mon,Wed, Fri - I do 20 mins of cardio, followed by 1 hour of pilates/barre method/ballet condition workouts Tues, Thurs, Sat - 45-60 min of cardio anywhere from cardio dance to kickboxing but always moderately high intensity so I can go the full time A typical breakfast for me is oatmeal with chopped pecans, or 100 cal english muffin w/1 scrambled egg and fruit Lunch is typically 2 slices of whole grain bread with roast beef or natural peanut butter and fruit preserves, and fruit, or hummus and whole wheat pita Dinner is anywhere from honey nut cheerios with fat free milk to broiled/baked/grilled fish (which I love) and broccoli or spinach etc. Or like last night I had shrimp w/cocktail sauce and sauteed broccoli I rarely am able to get my snacks in because it seems like my snacks and workouts fall out the same time and I just can't eat and then workout b/c I get sick to my stomach but if I do have a snack it's fat free string cheese and fruit or 100 cal popcorn or half a pita and hummus etc. So what gives? My friend says when I eat 'clean' I am not getting enough calories for my activity level/weight but how can that possible? Btw I have about 60 pounds to lose. So far I have lost 20. And my bf% is 37. Waist size is 37 inches, but my hip size is like 42 inches. I hold all my weight in my boobs and a$$/thighs. Any help will be appreciate sorry so long but wanted to be thorough thanks.
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03-24-2009, 07:12 AM
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your thyroid. have you had a hormone pannel done? it may also be that you are under eating and putting yourself in starvation mode. get your thyroid checked and be patient. 1-2 pounds a week of weight loss is what you want to shoot for.
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03-24-2009, 07:32 AM
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This is what I'm thinking. Your diet doesn't look terrible, though there are some things I would get rid of. Are you often hungry?
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03-24-2009, 08:32 AM
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Don't eat honey nut cheerios for dinner. That's not helping you (lots of carbs). I agree with Robyn here though, I think you may be under eating. Make sure each meal you have has a protein source. Try adding a healthy source of fat with your meals (peanuts, almonds, avacados, etc.
Again, I agree with Robyn that your diet looks okay but I think you need to pick it up a few days a week. Zig Zag your diet so that your keeping yourself out of starvation mode. That's probably why when you "cheat" you see some results because your body gets beside itself with excitement. Maybe set aside a weekend or a day off as a refeed day. Let us know what you decide. P.S. Mcchunter is right, getting your thyroid checked is a good idea.
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03-24-2009, 08:53 AM
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agree with Jay, too many carbs and not enough protein.
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03-24-2009, 09:47 AM
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Also, on another note, dont go by the scale, go by the mirror!
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03-24-2009, 09:53 AM
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As far as snacks....a handful of almonds. Apple slices with a little natty PB. String cheese isn't too bad. A yogurt. Cottage cheese. Keep at it, and don't be AFRAID to eat. Yes, you need to restrict your calories, but you also need to feed your body so it doesn't freak out on you and think you are starving it. And honestly, don't feel bad about a cookie once a week. We all need that to stay sane! If one cookie a week ends up being your vice, I'm willing to bet you're better off than a lot of us. OH.....and what do you DRINK???? A lot of times you will find hidden bad calories and sugar in what you drink.
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03-24-2009, 10:30 AM
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Lol, anyways....
Hope this example diet helps. I tried to make it based on your info above. Breakfast- Oatmeal + 2-3 scrambled eggs, fruit/fruit juice Lunch- Lean meat, roast beef is ok if it truly is lean. Turkey, chicken breast, etc. on a whole weat pita with hummus. Some fruit/celery and all natty peanut butter on the side. Dinner- Broiled, baked, steamed fish/chicken/turkey breast is perfect, side or veggies. Small side of whole grain rice or a small baked/boiled/mashed sweet potato. I know you don't like snacking around your workout so try this. Before working out, drink a cup of water mixed with half a scoop of whey protein. This will give you some protein to work on without giving you that bloated, sick to your stomach feeling (take about 1/2 hour before). After working out, drink another shake but add a light amount of carbs to it and maybe a spoonful of peanut butter. (BTW, Optimum Nutrition Chocolate is effing delicious). This'll give you some extra calories in your day. Try to sneak in some healthy stuff during the day as well, maybe some low fat cottage cheese with a handful of nuts and some fruit. It'll help a lot.
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03-24-2009, 06:38 PM
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Wow alot of great options here! Thanks for the fast responses. As a side note I moved to a new area a few months ago so I have not found an endocrinologist here yet but it's on the top of my things to do list, but definitely a good suggestion thanks!
I'm not gonna lie. I can't get rid of my Honey Nut Cheerios!!! I only have it about once a week but it gives me my sweets fix. However, I will definitely focus on adding more protein to my breakfast/lunch. For breakfast tomorrow I prepared two hard boiled eggs and a high fiber english muffin like thing I got at Whole Foods. I like it because it has 9 grams of protein in one slice and 8 grams of fiber. It sits in my stomach like a brick so I like that it keeps me full! For lunch I made leftovers of dinner tonight which was broiled tilapia with onions/cherry tomatoes, sauteed broccoli (made sure to add a little olive oil for good fat), and I think I will skip the brown rice tomorrow but I had brown rice tonight. I also packed a hard boiled egg for my pre-workout snack just because I really don't have anything for a protein snack right now (until next grocery day this weekend). So I think sticking to this will round out the need for more protein in my diet. I am also thinking of making a crustless quiche on the weekends (with few whole eggs but mostly egg whites, lots of veggies and maybe ground turkey) and eating that throughout the week for breakfast. I am not sure exactly what re-feed is but I am thinking it's like the zig zag calorie thing? So take one day out of the week and eat a higher amount of calories than I normally would, but just not $hit food? I think that's my interpretation. I will try that and do it on Friday because I am going out for sushi Fri. night. Jay thanks for the sample menu. It really gave me an idea of how to alter how I already eat to 'fix' my diet. One thing I wish I could eat but I just can't because it repulses me, is cottage cheese! I know this is one of those miracle foods but seriously every time I even look at it I want to puke my brains out! I won't even tell you all what it reminds me off! I did buy protein powder a few years ago and that crap tasted like my dog's a$$!! I just could NOT stomach it! But I do realize that I am pretty hungry before my workouts and your solution sounds like it'd work but i'm scared to try another disgusting a$$ protein powder! I will see if I can get a smaller size of the one you recommended because I do love chocolate :-) I think by adding the protein to my meals it should naturally bump up the calories? So maybe solving multiple problems at once. The biggest challenge I face is that I leave my house at 6:15 in the morning and I don't get back until 5:15 in the afternoon. So basically the only meals I eat during the week at home are my dinners. On M, W, F I workout after work and often I am STARVING! But I eat lunch at 12 and then workout at 5:30ish and it's hard to fit in a snack mainly because I don't know what to eat that won't make me hungrier. T, TH I workout during my lunch hour so I run into the same issue with trying to fit in a snack between breakfast yet before lunch. I will have to work on this and get some more snack ideas. Thank you all once again! Sorry for the babbling, but you gave me alot of great ideas and I'll report back on how I'm adjusting! :-)
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03-24-2009, 06:42 PM
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Oh and Robyn I drink mainly water and sparkling water. Once a day I may have a can of diet soda but that's about it. And i know, i know I need to eat but it's sooooo hard when everything you read says eat no more than 1200 calories and then you feel like if you eat anything more than that you can't lose weight. It's just really confusing sometimes but my body, I guess, is just not responding to the lower calories right now. So you're right and I will just have to make a conscious decision to do it.
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03-24-2009, 06:43 PM
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 ) I noticed something a few years ago. I would reduce my calories, eat right, lift, light cardio, and I would stop losing weight about 4-5weeks in. Then I would do what you "think" would be right, reduce calories more to see if it would jump start my wieght loss again - NOPE - didnt work So, I what I have learned by trial and error is this: Yes, you do need a caloric reduction and yes you do need to burn off more calories then what you consume = basic weight loss 101. However, where people get caught up is reducing there caloric intake wwaaayy too much. I assure you 1200 calories a day will put you in starvation mode, and will do so quickly. Your metabolism will come to a screaching halt and your weight loss will slow or stop all together. Adjust your diet to truly fit you. Start logging (if u dont already) all your food you consume. Start somewhere basic (which you already have going for you) and go from there. If you notice your weight loss is slowing or stopping dont automatically assume your eating too much - there are a number of factors (and yes thyroid could easily be one of them), NOT EATING ENOUGH, ingesting the wrong food at the wrong times sending your insulin spikes through the roof etc etc. I know it sounds weird when say eat MORE, but (assuming your tyroid is ok) you have already seen what shocking your metabolism with eating higher calories can do! I for instance am taking off some BF% right now. I will eat lower calories for 4-5 days, then high calories -good clean food -(like 1000-1800 more) for a day, then the 7th day I will usually cheat and eat all day what I want....I will look bloated for the "cheat" day but the next day and day after that my body sucks in and I'll lose BF% (not actual lbs usally). This might be a little extreme for you, but it has worked for me. I wish you the best of luck
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Don't be afraid of calories. Just make them count! I know it's frustrating. I've been over 200 pounds 3 times in my life from pregnancies and I've come back from all of them. It WILL happen in due time!
And if you don't like the taste of protein powder, try Muscle Milk. It's by far the best tasting protein I've had. I myself don't care what it tastes like because I just down it, but my husband is very partial to Muscle Milk and sometimes I'll steal his instead of using mine. We have the low sugar Strawberries and Cream right now and it's amazing. If you get the fruit flavors you can always throw some berries or bananas in with it too and make a smoothie.
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03-25-2009, 12:57 PM
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Nobody see's the scale but you, it's not like you have it strapped to your forehead and people are like "OH MY GOSH, SHE'S 130?"
 The mirror is virtually what everyone see's as well as your own self every time you walk by one. You are doing what you are doing to physically change your body and it's appearance, remember the key word here "appearance". So go by the mirror, as it will tell you no lies, it can be brutal or it can be satisifying, either way the mirror is not partial and will give the best feedback there is.....unless it's a distorted circus house mirror, because then all bets are off
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I go by jeans. Yep, I said JEANS. You know, the ones you wear. This has always worked for me when trying to lose weight. Screw the scale. Get out a pair of jeans that is one size too small for you. Hang those jeans in your bedroom, bathroom, wherever you're most likely to pass them at least once a day. Once a week try these jeans on. Once they start to fit better, your body is obviously changing. And don't expect to go from not buttoning them one week to them hanging off the next. It will be gradual. First you can't even button them, then you barely can, then you can easily, then they're loose, then all the sudden you can put them on and take them off without unbuttoning them. Then you start over with a new pair of jeans! Kinda silly, but to me it's the best judge. I have one pair of jeans I keep around specifically because when I get big enough to fit them I know I've been slacking too much in my diet!
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I go by T-Shirts. When they start getting tight I know I am doing sommething right. It's also the first place I see when I stop lifting or lose some size, all of a sudden my shirts look 1 size too big for me.
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