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Old 07-18-2005, 03:28 AM
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what are you doing on the smith...


one major problem... i didnt see squats on there.
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If you guys could give me some feedback on my routine that'd b gr8, but preferably onli if u reali know what ur talkin about lol

Day 1 - chest, shoulders, traps, triceps
day 2 - abs, lower back, legs
day 3 - back, biceps, forearms



day 1 - chest:a few push ups and chest press to warm up, peck deck (machine flys), BB bench press
shoulders: DB lateral raises, DB front deltoid raises, BB military press
traps: DB shrugs
triceps: tricep pushdowns, DB kickbacks, bench dips

day 2 - a bit of running b4 routine (thats kinda my main leg workout)
abs: crunches, leg raises, decline situps, vertical leg raises
lower back: lumbar extensions
legs: (I'm not that keen on legs at atm im just doing a short leg routine) calf raises, squats

day 3 - back: wide grip pull downs (front and back), DB rows
biceps: BB curls, chin ups, reverse curls (reverse curls also 4 forearms)
forearms: BB forearm curls, BB reverse forearms curls

I'm supplementing whey, creatine, L-glutamine, tribulus

what do you think, ive just started this routine, ya know giving it a whirl trial and error, i kinda made this routine to tailor to my gym equipment and personal preferences.
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hughesie101 :

way too many sets

why areyou on low carb are you cutting (if so then you def need to drop the sets) or do you not understand the role they play in muscle?
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If you guys could give me some feedback on my routine that'd b gr8, but preferably onli if u reali know what ur talkin about lol

Day 1 - chest, shoulders, traps, triceps
day 2 - abs, lower back, legs
day 3 - back, biceps, forearms



day 1 - chest:a few push ups and chest press to warm up, peck deck (machine flys), BB bench press
shoulders: DB lateral raises, DB front deltoid raises, BB military press
traps: DB shrugs
triceps: tricep pushdowns, DB kickbacks, bench dips

day 2 - a bit of running b4 routine (thats kinda my main leg workout)
abs: crunches, leg raises, decline situps, vertical leg raises
lower back: lumbar extensions
legs: (I'm not that keen on legs at atm im just doing a short leg routine) calf raises, squats

day 3 - back: wide grip pull downs (front and back), DB rows
biceps: BB curls, chin ups, reverse curls (reverse curls also 4 forearms)
forearms: BB forearm curls, BB reverse forearms curls

I'm supplementing whey, creatine, L-glutamine, tribulus

what do you think, ive just started this routine, ya know giving it a whirl trial and error, i kinda made this routine to tailor to my gym equipment and personal preferences.

how do you cycle days 1,2, and 3 throughout the week? ie how many off days etc?

sets? reps?

apart from that, do your bench press first on chest day make sure to get some incline in there

do your squats first on day 2, oh aren't they fun

you do a hardly anything for back then a lot for your arms IMO
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:49 AM
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hmm i dont reali hav set reps but its normally sumthin like 10,8,6 or 8,7,6 depends on how im feeling

i do day 1 monday wen im full of energy and rearing 2 go
tues off
day 2 wednesday
thursday off
day 3 friday
saturday off
sunday off

yea good call on the incline, should i do like 3 sets of incline and 3 normal bench like 2 separate exercises, or like 1 set of incline 2 sets of normal, also would i do that b4 or after normal bench

hmm yes i do skimp on the back a bit whats some other good exercises to chuck in there 4 back and in what order

and in regards to the bench b4 the peck deck r u not supposed 2 warm up the muscle first with an isolation exercise and then do the compound (pec, then bench)?
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:52 AM
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hey guys, thnx for the fast reply

looks like a got a bit of work to do hehe

ok lets see here...

Monday- chest + tris + calves + abs
Chest
Bench press 4x6-8
Incline dumbbell press 4x6-8
Chest press 4x6-8
Smith machine 4x6-8
Triceps
Tri push downs (rope) 4x10
Kick backs 4x10
Dips 4x 6-8
Calves
Calf raises 4x10

Tuesday-shoulders + biceps + forearms
Shoulders
Shoulder press 4x6-8
Shoulder side raises 4x6-8
Shoulder front raises 4x6-8
Shrugs 4x6-8
Lat pulldown 4x6-8
Biceps
Alternating bicep curls 4x6-8
Incline Hammer curls 4x6-8
Barbell curls 4x6-8
Cable curls (ezy bar) 4x6-8
Forearms
Forearm curls 4x20 dumbbell each hand hold 20 seconds

Wednesday-legs + back + abs
Legs
Leg extensions 4x6-8
Leg curls 4x6-8
Calf raises 4x10
Leg press 4x6-8
Back
Seated row 4x6-8

Thursday-chest + triceps
Chest
Bench press 4x6-8
Incline dumbbell press 4x6-8
Chest press 4x6-8
Smith machine 4x6-8
Triceps
Tri push downs (rope) 4x10
Kick backs 4x10
Dips 4x until failure

Friday-shoulders + biceps + forearms + calves + abs
Shoulders
Shoulder press 4x6-8
Shoulder side raises 4x6-8
Shoulder front raises 4x6-8
Shrugs 4x6-8
Lat pulldown 4x6-8
Biceps
Alternating bicep curls 4x6-8
Incline Hammer curls 4x6-8
Barbell curls 4x6-8
Cable curls (ezy bar) 4x6-8
Forearms
Forearm curls 4x20 dumbbell each hand hold 20 seconds
Calves
Calf raises 4x10

ok there are a few flaws with my routine ahha...if i add squats and back exercises to my routine...do u think it could work? or would it b working my body to much? Perhaps a diferent workout approach? i have been training for about 6-7 months now on a pretty standard routine given to me by my gym guy, i feel i need a change. Perhaps a split of:

day 1-chest
day 2-arms
day 3-shoulders
day 4-legs + back
day 5-arms

do u think that could work??
At the moment i am mainly interested in building huge arms...i have a fairly solid and large body, but no guns to go with it haha

u guys think the above split would work better for me?

Thnx again
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:55 AM
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oh and about the diet

i am not fat or anything, but i have a bit of fat around my hips and a lil gut

so i figure until i lose it, i would try low carbs and high protein??

I am going for mass rather than tone or strength, so hence the low reps

sound good to u guys??

any help would b greatly appreciated

cheers again
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Monring all,

I am feeling particularly brave this morning! so feel free to critique my workout! dont hold any punches.

Monday

Legs

Squats
leg extensions
leg curls
Stand claf raises

Abs
Weighted crunches 3x20
Twist crunches 3x20

Tuesday

HIIT - 20 min on the bike


Wednesday
Chest/Bi's

Chest
Flat barbell bench
Incline flys
Weighted Dips

Bi's
Concentration Curl
Preacher Curl

Abs
Wighted Crunches 3 x 20
Twist crunches 3 x 20

Thursday

HIIT - 20 min on the bike

Friday
HIIT 20 min on the bike


Saturday
Back/Sholders/Tri's

Back

Lat pull down
DB Row
Dead lift (on a smith)
Wide Grip Chin ups

Shoulders
DB milarty press
DB Raises
Side Raises


Tri's

Close grip bench press
Tri extensions
Weighted dips


All exercises are done doing 5x5 with 2 sets to warm up the muscle. What you all think? Look to do this for about 5-6 weeks and then will alternate.


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Hi, i have just started using the HIIT method 4 times a week hoping to eliminate unwanted body fat. Even though triming up around my waist is important to me, my main aim is to increase the muscle size of my arms, chest, legs etc. Will using a high intensity interval training method decrease my rate of progress in strength training?? if so what sort of cardio if any should i do??

Also, i weight train 3 times a week, doing 3 sets of 6 reps. i do the heaviest weight i can on each of the exercises. everytime i try to go up a weight i find that i never complete all the reps , or i dont do the excerise properly. i want to no when i should move up to a higher weight??

i no these are prob routine questions but i have just started out and am not sure bout things, so help with this will be appreciated. Cheers, ben
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im just new here... and i still dont know how to change the routine correctly (so as your muscles would not be used to the same workout)?

do i have to change the routine itself? or do i just have to change the chronological order of the workout?

could someone help me please..

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im currently gonna adopt the routine posted here before (2004)

mon - chest, tri
tue - off
wed - back, bi
thur - off
fri - shoulder, leg
sat - off
sun - off
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how many weeks should i do this routine, and when should i change the routine, so as to my muscles would not get used to the same exercises?

thanks a lot..
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:03 AM
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hey whats up. i just read whats going on with you and in my opinion i would change my routine every 2 - 3 weeks. you are right in saying what you said. if you don't your muscles get used to the stress of the same movements day in and day out. then your muscles dont see the workout as a "threat" and they wont grow. by switching things up you wont have to worry about becoming stagnant or whatever. i dont know if youre doing cardio (i didnt see it on your schedule) but the same thing holds to the cardiovascular exercises..

your workout the first 3 weeks (lets say 3 weeks)

mon - chest, tri
tue - off
wed - back, bi
thur - off
fri - shoulder, leg
sat - off
sun - off

after 3 weeks

mon - back, bi
tue - off
wed - shoulder, leg
thur - off
fri - chest, tri
sat - off
sun - off

youre basically doing a 3 day split from what i can see so you can switch it up however you want. sorry it was so long and i hope i got everything right so it helps you out the most. then again what do i know...im a newbie hope it helps. later!

hey.. thanks for the reply... it sure will help.

so 3 weeks eh!?! hmmm... now i know what to do.. ill be starting the 3day split workout tomorrow. and ill be lifting heavier weights than i usually do.. (8reps x 3sets).. i hope this workout woulb be beneficial for me..

oh by the way, i havent been doin cardio for a month now.. silly me.. hehe.. but can u suggest on how to do my cardio right side to side with my 3day split?

thanks alot bro.. more power... :P

(and even if you're a newbie here in this forum, in the art of body building, mayber you're not a newbie after all.. and that what counts! thanks)
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monday: 10-20 degrees dumbell press(warm up then 1 heavy set) , cable cross overs (1 warm up then 1 heavy set) , dumbell flys (1 heavy set)
closegrip smythe bench press ( 1 heavy set) dips (1 heavy set)
decline twisting situps (20 reps ) then weighted decline situps

tuesday:rest

wednesday: chin ups ( 2 sets 1 wide grip pals faicng away and 1 close grip palms facing). deadlift .(1 warm up then 1 heavy set). barbell row 1 set heavy) seated dumbell curls ( 1 set hammer style then 1 set normal palms facing up) forearm curls n thn forearm reverse curl

thursday; rest

friday; shoulder press ( 1 warm up 1 heavy set). lateral raises (1 warm up 1 heavy set) rotator cuff exersizes (2 different exersizes one set for each for each arm ) . leg presss warm up , leg press heavy , squat heavy , hamstring curl warm up , hamstring curl heavy, seated calf raise warm up , seated calfs heavy.

(i sometimes include a set of 20 rep squats )

so thats

monday: chest 3 sets triceps 2 sets abbs 2 sets
wednesay: back 4 sets biceps 2 sets forearms 2 sets
friday; legs 4 sets shoulders 2 sets rotators 2 sets

but i may swop wednesdays workout to tuesday because similar muscles are worked on wednesday n friday
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:25 PM
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hey no problem dude. good intentions are the only things i have. as far as cardio goes....it looks to me like youre trying to get bulk up, if im not mistaken, judging by your routine (8 reps x 3 sets). i dont know what youre calorie intake is but if youre bulking up and youre doing cardio just to gain some definition i would jack up my calorie intake so that you reap the benefits of lifting heavy w/o cutting yourself short because youre doing cardio. you'll be burning alot of calories you know?

i would do cardio on days i dont work out. for example if you do that 3 day split youre doing..mondays-wednesdays & fridays you'd lift and on tuesdays and thursdays you can run. i would say to start for about 20 min. pretty quickly..like to keep your cardiovascular system a little "whoa! hey there what the hell's going on?" hehe if you want you can PM (send me a private message) if you have anymore questions so you dont have to keep on checking back to this thread and i might be able to help you later on with whatever else.

be easy. once again i hope this helps
now i know the principle behing cardio and bulking up...

wow! im gaining so much knowledge here... thanks a lot..

lets just talk about this in PM.. thanks alot again...
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2 a day routine-not for the rookie or anyone prone to injury:
Monday-Legs--1st routine-quads- abs---4-5 hours recovery time---2nd routine hams.

Tuesday-Chest--Heavy Incline and Flat barbell bench presses--heavy weighted dips--(4-5 hours recovery)--2nd routine-Tripple giant d.bell supersets on incline---standard supersets w/ d.bells on flat--pull overs and stiff arm pull downs--dips.

Wednesday-Back---Deads,abs--(4-5 hours recovery)--Weighted & standard Chins.

Thursday-Shoulders---(4-5 hours recovery)--Tri-ceps

Friday--Cavles & Abs---(4-5 hours recovery)---Bi-ceps,forearms

Saturday & Sunday---off!
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for 2-3 months:
mon ch/abs
tue back
wed legs/abs
thur shoul/traps
fri arms/4arms

then for 6 or 9 wks
wk1:
mon:bk/traps tue:leg/ab wed:shoul/bis th:ch/tris fri:bk/trap
wk2:
mon:shoul/bis tue: leg/ab wed:ch/tri thu:bk/trap fri:shoul/bi
wk3:
mon:ch/tris tue: leg/ab wed: bk/traps thu: shoul/bis fri:ch/tri

wk 4 go back to wk 1 and so on. I really love to slam the crap out of back, I like doing close grip wide/in/out pullups, deadlifts etc. always doing different excersies with the exceptioon of a few.

if you notice in the later workout, by doing 2 parts a day on 1 week you hit ch/tri twice, next week hit bck/traps twice and last week hit shoul/bis twice. i saw some great results switching back and forth from these 2 workouts years ago and I'm now very close to where I was 5 or 6 years ago (29yrs old now). Hope it works for you out there!
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Will this routine make me overtrain?

monday-upper body
tuesday-rest
wednesday-lower body
thurday -rest
friday-upper body
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sunday-lower body
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I try...try to do cardio before work @ 545 am, however i often times dont for obvious reasons.

I do MAX-OT for my main routine, i developed my own routine based on their sysetem, however i found that i like to add in some iso excersises on that particular muscles 3 day rest. It seems like alot but im 24 and my recovery is good, so i figure i might as well push it while im still relatively young. I do not double up with isolating legs because i play ice hockey once a week and roller hockey every once in a while plus cardio. I also do some powerlifting stuff on saturdays, but i only recently started that.

so...

Monday: Back/iso Chest

Lat Pulldowns 3 sets of 6 (after warm up and weight acclimation)
Seated Cable Rows 2 sets 4-6
V-bar Pulldowns 2 sets 4-6
Dumbell Rows 1 set 4-6
Good Mornings 2 sets 6-8
Weighted Back Extensions 1 set 8-10
Either Cable FLys (3 Different angles inc/dec/straight) 1 set each 10 reps
or Dumbell Flys on flat bench + Inc/Dec Machine 1 set 10 reps each

Tuesday: Shoulders, Tri's/Iso-Bi's

Barbell Military Press 3 sets 4-6 (after warm up and weight acclimation)
Dumbell Military Press 2 sets 4-6 (rotate palms up and down)
Standing Lateral Raises 2 sets 6-8
seated bent over lateral raises 1 set 6-8
Skull Crushes 2 Sets 6-8
Cable Push Downs 2 sets 6-8
Kickbacks 1 set 6-8
Preacher Curls 2 sets 10
One arm inside hammer curls 1 set 10
Cable Curls 1 set 10

Wednesday: Legs/Iso Traps

Squats 3 sets 4-6 (after warm up and weight acclimation)
Leg Press 2 sets 4-6
Stiff leg deads 2 sets 4-6
leg curls 2 sets 4-6
Hack Squat Calf raises 2 sets 6-8
Leg Press Machine Calf Raises 2 sets 6-8
(once every 2 leg days) Seated Calf Raise Machines 1 set 6-8
Standing Barbell Raises (to chin) 2 sets 10

Thursday: Chest/Iso Back

Bench Press 3 sets 4-6 (after warm up and weight acclimation)
Incline press 2 sets 4-6
Decline press 1 set 4-6
Dips 1 Set 4-6
(i alternate barbell/dumbell however i feel like doing it at the time)
Pull Ups 3 sets as many as i can
Machine Rows 2 sets 10

Friday: Bi's/Forearms/Iso Shoulders

Barbell Curls 3 sets 4-6 (after warm up and weight acclimation)
Dumbell Curls 2 sets 4-6
Hammer Curls 1 set 4-6
Seated Wrist Barbell curls 2 sets 8-10
Standing Dumbell Wrist Curls 1 set 6-8
Front Straight-Arm Dumbell Raises 2 Sets 10
Side Straight-Arm Dumbell Raises 2 Sets 10

Saturday: Traps/Powerlifting/Machine Circuit
PowerCleans (to chest) 3 sets 8-10
Powerlifting style deadlifts with alternating facing palms 2 sets 6-8
Dumbell Shrugs 2 sets 6
Barbell Shrugs (front) 1 set 4-6
Barbell Shrugs (rear) 1 set 4-6

Machine circuit at my gym if im feeling extra chipper, or not playing roller hockey that morning or whatever.

what do you think?
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oh yea, i forgot

for abs i do monday front abs between exercises
tuesday i do obliques in between shoulder exercises
wednesday, lower abs
thursday abs off day

friday: weighted abs all around

cable crunches, weighted side bends, and weighted leg raises off the flat bench.
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ok I think I have a nice 4 day split put together.

Workout Routine

Tuesday: Chest/Abs
Bench Press - 3sets X 8-10 reps
Dumbell Flye - 3 sets X 8-10 reps
Incline Dumbell Press - 3 sets X 8-10 reps
Ab Work

Thursday: Back
Lat Pull Down
Chin Ups
One Arm Rows
Standing Curl Bar - 3 sets X 8-10 reps
Incline Bench Dumbell Curls 3 sets X 8-10 reps


Friday: Shoulders/Triceps
Standing Military Press
Side/Front Raises
Shrugs
Skull Crushers(French Press)
Overhead dumbell extensions


Sunday: Legs
Squat
Deadlift
Lunges
AB WORK
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which routine will give quicker and better results?

Monday-chest,triceps, shoulders
Tuesday-rest
Wednesday-back, biceps, forearms,abs
Thurday-rest
Friday-rest
Saturday-legs exculeding calves
Sunday-heavy abs,light Biceps and forearms ,Heavy calves, light back

or

Monday-Upper body
Tuesday-
Wednesday-LOwer body
Thursday-
Friday-
Saturday-Upper body
Sunday-Lower body
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