shoulder issues

[rlama1]

Hi. I am 61 years old. I work whole body twice a week. Latly I've been having
shoulder issues. Not with the joint, but more in the way of muscle cramping. I
realy do'nt want to stop working out, so I was thinking of eliminating direct
shoulder exersizes for a month or so. Could someone give me pros and cons on this. I also want to mention that my shoulders are my weak link. Thanks !

[joemomma]

If they are your weak link you should hit them harder. They are likely getting fatigued early, hence the cramping feeling you are getting.

DB presses, military presses, and rear/lat/front db raises for stability. Very light weights for the raises.

[m3somorph]

Make sure you do pleant of stability exercises or you're shoulders are cactus.

[lee thompson]

Originally Posted by joemomma

If they are your weak link you should hit them harder. They are likely getting fatigued early, hence the cramping feeling you are getting.

DB presses, military presses, and rear/lat/front db raises for stability. Very light weights for the raises.

I agree,make them stronger.

[rlama1]

Thank you for the advice! I will try to work them harder. The cramping is
slowing me down at work, but I will try to lift through it. As far as front raises
are concerned, I do upright rows, is'nt that some what the same?

[m3somorph]

Front Raises hit your anterior delts whereas Upright Rows hit the medial delts.

In a word: No.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

If you are benching heavy and also incorporate overhead presses into your routine, front raises are essentially a waste of time

[lee thompson]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

If you are benching heavy and also incorporate overhead presses into your routine, front raises are essentially a waste of time

Very true.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

If you are benching heavy and also incorporate overhead presses into your routine, front raises are essentially a waste of time

Raises in general are a waste of time.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

Raises in general are a waste of time.

I dont think side raises are a waste in any case.

[pullup master]

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

[Red5]

Originally Posted by pullup master

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

You've gotta be kididng right?

Care to share your thoughts on why these are a waste? I'm genuinely interested in your reply, afterall we never stop learning, right?

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by pullup master

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

This reply here just blows any credibility you have right out of the water.

Feel free to share more on this cant wait, this should be entertaining

[lee thompson]

Originally Posted by pullup master

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

Wow Military press is a waste? i wonder how i got my broad shoulders and upper body strength????

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

strike 1

Originally Posted by pullup master

i put on 20lbs of muscle in 3 months.
I was at 16% at end of that 3months, started at 20%.

strike 2

Originally Posted by pullup master

add deads to the leg day,
i would get rid of that arm day,
maybe make friday a leg day also, with big time deadlifting.

strike 3

Originally Posted by pullup master

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

YOUR OUT!

[lyricalnut02]

lol!!!!!

[STRATEGY]

Originally Posted by rlama1

Hi. I am 61 years old. I work whole body twice a week. Latly I've been having
shoulder issues. Not with the joint, but more in the way of muscle cramping. I
realy do'nt want to stop working out, so I was thinking of eliminating direct
shoulder exersizes for a month or so. Could someone give me pros and cons on this. I also want to mention that my shoulders are my weak link. Thanks !

i would suggest staring away from upright rows, dips, and keep it light on other exercises that indirectly effect the shoulders.

[m3somorph]

Originally Posted by pullup master

both front and side raises are great
military press is a waste, incline bench and raises best

Retard.

[waynaferd]

Lol....good stuff!!

Incline kills my right shoulder, so I only do flat bench or seated military presses. For raises I don't go much higher than 25lb db's, 3x8, and get a good pump and such.