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Old 05-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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chest biceps
tri's shoulders
back, legs (or slpit legs n back into two separate days?)
and do abs every other day

my weakest part of my body is my chest and i wanna be able to work on it atleast twice a week or every 4th or 5th day... comments plz
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:41 PM
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What do you mean by weakest? You won't necessarily be making more progress by working it twice a week..
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how about listing some exercises? At first glance your over training shoulders. They get hit hard when you work chest, doing them again the day after will lead to injury.
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my weakest part meaning that i cnt bench too much righ now. i am trying to gain strength.

some of teh exercises are flat bench, incline, cable, for shoulders- shoulder press,rope pull down (i think thats what its called),
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:50 PM
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you're over working the shoulders, and doing them too soon after chest day. if your chest is the weakest, drop your reps to like 4-8 and go heavy. it worked for me.
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You need to be more specific if you want real help
Lay out your 7 day routine (See example below)

Mon - Back/Legs/Biceps
Tue - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Wed - REST
Thu - Back/Legs/Biceps
Fri - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Sat - REST
Sun - REST


Then make a list of each days routine (See example below)

CHEST/SHOULDERS/TRICEPS
Bench press x 4 sets
Incline press x 4 sets
Military press x 4 sets
Side Lateral Rasies x 4 sets
Tricep cable pressdowns x 4 sets
Skullcrushers x 4 sets

BACK/LEGS/BICEPS
Follow same example above



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Old 05-13-2008, 08:15 PM
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ok tell me if this rutine is ok...

mon- chest/tri/abs
tues-shoulders/biceps
wens-back/abs
thurs-rest
fri-chest/tri/abs
sat-legs
sun-rest

repeat on mon??n is it still to much stress on the shoulders???
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:34 AM
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is it still to much stress on the shoulders???
YES

Always space out chest and shoulders by about 72 hours (3 days)
Shoulders and heavily involved in Chest work, so you are ruining your recovery time for the shoulders by hitting them up on consecutive days

Space them out, or do Chest/Shoulders together in the same workout to aleave yourself of the problem.
You should also seperate Back and Biceps by a day or 2 as well TBH

* Also, why are you hitting up chest/triceps twice per week but the rest only once?

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I personally think overtraining/injury is slightly paranoia.

after reading about the article about that inmate that tore through straight jackets and handcuffs, I mean, he worked out EVERYDAY all the time. and he was a BBBEEEAASSTT. just my two cents. I did shoulders the day before chest and I was fine.

everyones different tho, but i wouldnt SUGGEST doing shoulders before chest everytime. thats fa sho
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YES

Always space out chest and shoulders by about 72 hours (3 days)
Shoulders and heavily involved in Chest work, so you are ruining your recovery time for the shoulders by hitting them up on consecutive days

Space them out, or do Chest/Shoulders together in the same workout to aleave yourself of the problem.
You should also seperate Back and Biceps by a day or 2 as well TBH

* Also, why are you hitting up chest/triceps twice per week but the rest only once?

i think i asked this one dude at my gym bout shoulders on chest day (thas how i wanted them originally) n he was like thats too much stress on them. reason i want to workout my chest twice a week is to gain strenght but if i can combine my shoulders with my chest it makes things alot more easier.

something like this?

mon-chest/shoulders
tues-back
wens-bicep/triceps
thurs-rest
fri-chest/shoulders
sat-legs
sun off

or replace wnes with sat?

repeat on monday??
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:51 AM
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hmmm... combining them would be hell dude. You wouldnt be able to lift nearly as much than if you did them seperately. Try it out tho, If you did them same day, then theyd have adequate time to rest, and gains may be possible that way.

p.s. I am by far no personal trainer, I just like to theorize
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hmmm... combining them would be hell dude. You wouldnt be able to lift nearly as much than if you did them seperately. Try it out tho, If you did them same day, then theyd have adequate time to rest, and gains may be possible that way.

p.s. I am by far no personal trainer, I just like to theorize

yea it would be hella hard but when i did my previous rutine (chest,tri,shoulders) no one mentioned it in tar. n i got the same amount of rest but as of right now ama try it n see how it works out since i will be getting good amount of rest.
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yeah man, let me know how it goes.

it will exhaust the hell out of your shoulders, which should help them gain, but because your shoulders will be weak your chest may not get such a great workout

or, it could be more reliant on chest when doing bench, therefor creating a better workout for your chest alone because shoulders are shot.

Im interested
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:26 AM
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hmmm... combining them would be hell dude. You wouldnt be able to lift nearly as much than if you did them seperately. Try it out tho, If you did them same day, then theyd have adequate time to rest, and gains may be possible that way.
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This is not a unpopular method by any means. In fact, a GOOD AMOUNT of advanced people combine chest with shoulders.

I have been doing them this way for 1.5 years now and have great gains from day one...
I dont know, tell me if you think my shoulders are lagging as result







Also, you should be doing chest first, shoulders next, IMO


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Old 05-14-2008, 01:42 PM
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ok i will try this rutine out than... hoply it works for me... one last thing am i doing lil work on my triceps? since biceps will be worked on during my chest days??
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mon-chest/shoulders
tues-back
wens-bicep/triceps
thurs-rest
fri-chest/shoulders
sat-legs
sun off



The above is your routine right?
Can I ask why chest twice a week and back and legs only once????
I think your logic is off. You can still make progress with this routine, but I certainly think you can do better
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hello,just to add to this,how about some deadlifts and certainly more squats? i would definately squat twice a week.
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The above is your routine right?
Can I ask why chest twice a week and back and legs only once????
I think your logic is off. You can still make progress with this routine, but I certainly think you can do better

how can i make it better?? should i combibe legs with back?
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:06 PM
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how can i make it better?? should i combibe legs with back?
Most should not, but alot of people can get away with it...I do
It depends on how you train and how long you have been training for

My routine is this

M - Back/Legs/Biceps
T - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
W - OFF
Th - Back/Legs/Biceps
Fr - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
S - Off
S - Off

BUt I used to train once per week, per body part with 1-2 days off per week.
I feel as though now though that once per week is inferior to twice per week.

I would suggest to pattern a routine around the one above and cater it to your needs, spread out the days if you need to and seperate legs from back days. Everyone thinks you must be on a 7 day cycle, but you can easily do a 10 day cycle just the same
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:47 PM
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