fluctuation in strength on deads

[kovalaybolt17]

well im kind of confused here, about a month or so ago i hit 475 dead for one rep and i was pretty happy about it but for the last 2 weeks ive been having trouble getting even 455 up and havent even been able to get 475 off the ground. wtf is up with that? most of you are probably thinking it is a sign of overtraining but ive ruled that out since my chest and shoulder presses are sky rocketing as of late and my squats have been improving every leg session or 2. any of you guys have any insight into what is going on here?

and what makes it more unusual is that my t-bar rows and bb rows are improving steadily..wierd?

[FoRuMbOaRdS360]

Originally Posted by kovalaybolt17

well im kind of confused here, about a month or so ago i hit 475 dead for one rep and i was pretty happy about it but for the last 2 weeks ive been having trouble getting even 455 up and havent even been able to get 475 off the ground. wtf is up with that? most of you are porbably thinking it is a sign of overtraining but ive ruled that out since my chest and shoulder presses are sky rocketing as of late and my squats have been improving every leg session or 2. any of you guys have any insight into what is going on here?

I get the same thing. Overtraining would be the most common, not eating could be another. Also how good of a day you are having can add a good 20lbs on dead. Like if im feelin crappy I dont feel like I have the energy to lift my max.

[kovalaybolt17]

Originally Posted by FoRuMbOaRdS360

I get the same thing. Overtraining would be the most common, not eating could be another. Also how good of a day you are having can add a good 20lbs on dead. Like if im feelin crappy I dont feel like I have the energy to lift my max.

yes that would be the logical answer but why would my other compound lifts for back increase on the same day that my max is 20 pounds less on deads? and no matter how tired i am on shoulder and chest days they seem to increase no problem latley. trust me though man i east like a ****in horse.. and i dont think im overtraining since everything else is improving? i appreciate your input though man.

[FoRuMbOaRdS360]

Originally Posted by kovalaybolt17

yes that would be the logical answer but why would my other compound lifts for back increase on the same day that my max is 20 pounds less on deads? and no matter how tired i am on shoulder and chest days they seem to increase no problem latley. trust me though man i east like a ****in horse.. and i dont think im overtraining since everything else is improving? i appreciate your input though man.

Ya, I understand I have the same issue. My bench has gone up 25lbs and squat like 40lbs but deads has gone down or stayed the same.

Your welcome sorry I couldnt help anymore

[theara]

you could be overdoing it on the deads. you can do deads every other week or go heavy one week and light the next.

[jproudj]

Yeah you're probably just 'overtraining' deads, take a week or two off, do some assistance exercises instead. Or do higher reps for a couple of weeks then go back down. (not too high though lol, or you get the worst lower back pumps, ouch) I'd say it's pretty unusual for every main lift to improve consistently, something has to give.

[kovalaybolt17]

ya theara.. that could be true because i went through a phase for about 2 months where my deads were absolutly exploding.. i found myself maxing out every 7 days to mark my progress but deads are a very demanding excersise and my back may not be fully recovered from the prior week.

i might be getting into rack deads next week for the first time and see if it helps any.. which i expect it should. maybe ill rotate rack deads and regular deads.. who knows.

but i just ****in love going balls to the wall heavy every week.. maybe i should settle it down.

[CraigC]

If it were me I would change things up on deads. Do rack deads or do sumo if you're doing conventional now, or vice versa.

[roKstar87]

maybe it is your lower back

[kovalaybolt17]

Originally Posted by roKstar87

maybe it is your lower back

what?

[Spartan1600plus]

maybe you are now getting stricter on your form for deads? possibly your form wasnt that strict and you cheated some to push up the weight?...or maybe your form is starting to slack off and using your back to try and pull up the weight too much and not enough legs..I'm sure you know deadlift is a very complicated lift the slightest miscue can lead to injury/not lifting to potential.

[VBigNate]

i think what most ppl confuse going all out or balls to the wall with is basically going to failure...alot of ppl dont understand the concept of intensity in weightlifting..they think intensity is going until you cant do the weight anymore which is failure and that may be the case with you...intensity is like the percentage of your 1RM you are lifting at the time the higher the percentage the higher the intensity...try doing lighter weight for more reps, i think you are at a plateau and you need to do a different routine to get out of that, maybe take a week or 2 off from doing and deads..then start up again with a new routine

[VBigNate]

oh and maxing out on deads every week is only going to hinder you max not help it..i think you shouldnt max more than once a month at most!

[Papasmurf]

you are probably overworking your back.

[jlozan84]

If you were overtraining and your CNS needed a break, all of your lifts would suffer.

You have plateaued, because there is a weakness with one portion of the lift. Find the weak muscle and fix it - you are only as strong as the weakest link.

You can find this by looking back through your assistance movements and seeing what has stopped progressing or what you aren't doing. I suspect it isn't your back. To determine if it is your back, do rack deads one week. I bet you can get over 500 with those.

[kovalaybolt17]

thanks jlo and vbignate.. the rest were a help to