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Old 10-11-2006, 08:54 AM
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well, i decided i am going to stick to the original routine you posted without change. Yesterday i did the leg workout, and it didn't turn out too bad.. but obviously not as satisfying as a upper body!

I just cant wrap my head around how doing 2 workouts on the upper body that are spaced out by as much as 3 days solide upper body rest will be better than doing more! man the body is confusing.
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:05 AM
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Yeah. I don't know why my legs don't burn like my chest etc. I use heavy weights so I dunno why I don't get no burn.
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:10 AM
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Yeah. I don't know why my legs don't burn like my chest etc. I use heavy weights so I dunno why I don't get no burn.
The burn doesnt mean anything, seriously you could curl a tin of soup a thousand times and get an insane burn (lactic acid) and pump but it wont make you grow.

With your legs, make sure you hit the squats hard, after a good squat workout I have trouble walking for a good 3-4 days after.
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:18 AM
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That's the problem. I don't have any trouble walking. I want to have trouble moving after a leg workout. I want to feel like a beast.
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I lift Mon,tues,wed,thurs,fri and take sat. and sun. off.. I do this before school everyday.. I'm a football player in high school.. I've recently changed my diet up and im starting to focus on lots of protein and carbs and 5-7 small meals a day.. any ideas on what to eat for the meals.. Dont just list foods. list like what i should actually eat for each meal.. Im gonna put together a eating routine. Should i still eat these meals on the weekends when im not lifting?
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:34 AM
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This is in regards to the first post: I see a lot of routines that include stiff legged deadlifts for a leg workout, but I don't see how stiff legged deadlifts work the legs as opposed to regular deadlifts where you bend your knees. Maybe I'm confused as to what defines a stiff leg deadlift, but it seems like it works the back a lot more than the legs, in which case wouldn't it be in the back workout day?
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:18 AM
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the lower back does get worked but the stretch on the hams can't be beat.
Its the same priniciple of negatives reps, the load on the muscle as it resists the pulling force... i.e. the hams taking the strain as you lower the barbell to the floor.

leg curls on those fancy machines are poor in comparison to what is in effect one of the best ham exercises out there, tried and tested by pro's from the 50's till present day
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do a lot of people train deadlifts/squats on the same day. i did this when i first started out and had good results with it!
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:34 AM
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squats and stiff leg deads on the same day

squats and conventional deads on the same day is a bit much to ask from a noob.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:38 AM
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i did it for bout three months then just had a break from squats and deadlfts for about a year (i know stupid) i started spliting them up when i did them again....
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Seriously this is an old post and I hope some of these people have gotten more intelligent since they said what they said... LOL
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:14 PM
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Seriously this is an old post and I hope some of these people have gotten more intelligent since they said what they said... LOL
lol, what comments you referring to?
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hey guys, just finished reading trough the majority of the posts and it left me with a question.

Why is it not good to work the same muscle group more then once a week? For instance let’s say someone wants to improve their bench max, 1 chest / tri day a week is enough?

Of course I know it has something to do with letting that muscle rest and recupe before you go hammering it again... but the ole high school football coach used to have me on the bench ever other day >_<

Anyway... just curious.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:56 PM
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hey guys, just finished reading trough the majority of the posts and it left me with a question.

Why is it not good to work the same muscle group more then once a week? For instance let’s say someone wants to improve their bench max, 1 chest / tri day a week is enough?

Of course I know it has something to do with letting that muscle rest and recupe before you go hammering it again... but the ole high school football coach used to have me on the bench ever other day >_<

Anyway... just curious.
I'd say it's too much for a beginner. The ligaments, tendons, joints, core and secondary muscles can't take it, the bigger muscles can. That's why I feel you should stick to reps of 8-12 for the first 6 months before going heavy.
Concentrate on technique and form and then work yourself into a more advanced routine to avoid injury.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:48 PM
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I'd say it's too much for a beginner. The ligaments, tendons, joints, core and secondary muscles can't take it, the bigger muscles can. That's why I feel you should stick to reps of 8-12 for the first 6 months before going heavy.
Concentrate on technique and form and then work yourself into a more advanced routine to avoid injury.

Absolutely, i agree for people who have not touched a weight their entire life or are just getting back into it after a long break it is important to build core and total body strength. However after looks through some of the routines of the big boys around here i still see a lot of: 1 chest day, 1 leg day... or maybe i should say that they hardly ever have the same exercise twice in the same week.

What i was more wondering was if this was just for the sake of getting a complete body workout, or if there are reasons as to why (lets say flat benching) would be bad to do twice in a week...
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Absolutely, i agree for people who have not touched a weight their entire life or are just getting back into it after a long break it is important to build core and total body strength. However after looks through some of the routines of the big boys around here i still see a lot of: 1 chest day, 1 leg day... or maybe i should say that they hardly ever have the same exercise twice in the same week.

What i was more wondering was if this was just for the sake of getting a complete body workout, or if there are reasons as to why (lets say flat benching) would be bad to do twice in a week...
Everyone is different, but twice a week IMO is better than once a week. You miss a ton of growth only training a BP once / week.

Not sure what big boy logs you are referring to? Most of the big boys don't post logs here anymore. lol
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I lose strength and endurance too fast and I don't know why. I get strong very fast and build my endurance just as fast, both with cardio and lifting. But if I take a break from either for more than a couple of weeks, I feel as though I have taken a huge step backwards. Two weeks off equals about two months loss. Now it doesn't take me that long to get back where I was, but why am I losing so much strength and endurance so fast? I am 6'3" and 27 yo. I am overweight now, about 245. My BMI is 180 and my body fat is something like 27% I am about 20 pounds heavier and 10% more body fat than I have been ever. From about 21 to 26, I was a consistent 220 pounds and 17% - 18%. Even then I noticed the drastic loss in strength and endurance.

A little about my habits... which are horrible.
I eat out of a trash can. Lots of fast food.
I have no energy or motivation.
I am an electrician and move all day. Up and down ladders.
I haven't lifted or exercised regularly for over a year.
Even when I lifted, there was no real consistency to it. A couple of weeks on, a couple of months off.
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you dont have to do abs every day. thats like saying you should do your arms every day.

twice a week, at most 3 id say.
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