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Old 08-25-2006, 01:30 PM
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Could you explain what Dips are and what kind of tricep extensions since there are many kinds ? see http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...ip=&order=Name
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Dips.

Tricep extensions.
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Old 08-27-2006, 02:58 PM
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Question How many reps ?

How many sets/reps for:

Military Press
Lateral Raises
Tricep Extensions

?? 3 sets 8 ?

The routine doesn't specifiy.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:17 PM
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also, is it ok to do back and bi's on same day? i read somewhere else how people dont like to do em on same day and am wondering why?
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How many sets/reps for:

Military Press
Lateral Raises
Tricep Extensions

?? 3 sets 8 ?

The routine doesn't specifiy.
Do 3 sets of 10!
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:19 PM
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also, is it ok to do back and bi's on same day? i read somewhere else how people dont like to do em on same day and am wondering why?
Its actually a very good way to do it, and I dont know many people who don't like to do Back and Bi's on the same day.
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:18 PM
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How many sets/reps for:

Military Press
Lateral Raises
Tricep Extensions

?? 3 sets 8 ?

The routine doesn't specifiy.
I would do 3 x 8 for military press & 3 x 10 for the other 2.

I personally like to keep my compound movements on the lower rep side & up the weight.
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:40 AM
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Bench press (8 reps x 3 sets)
Incline Dumbbell Press (8 reps x 3 sets)

I know you use barbell for one, and dumbbells for the other, but... aren't these basically the same?

Is this a good workout for the shoulders or should something else replace the dumbbell press?

Just curious.
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:47 AM
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lol, dumbells are harder to control than barbells and also stop dominant sides pushing the weight up like you get with a barbell.

no shoulder issues with the exercises
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Bench press (8 reps x 3 sets)
Incline Dumbbell Press (8 reps x 3 sets)

I know you use barbell for one, and dumbbells for the other, but... aren't these basically the same?

Is this a good workout for the shoulders or should something else replace the dumbbell press?

Just curious.
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:45 AM
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i'm curious as to why there aren't any lunges on legs/abs day? are these excersises better than lunges? can you add lunges in, or can you replace one of the existing excercises for lunges ?
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i'm curious as to why there aren't any lunges on legs/abs day? are these excersises better than lunges? can you add lunges in, or can you replace one of the existing excercises for lunges ?
In all actuality, lunges are a bit more advanced exercise. Its better to do squats first, then move to split squats b4 you move to lunges to do them at a weight where its worth doing.!

I tried them once b4 i was ready with just 105 pounds and ended up pulling my groin. Couldnt do leg exercises or run for about 3 weeks!
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:05 AM
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this is a basic routine for a beginner and lunges require a lot of balance and co-ordination.
Squats and leg presses should never be substituted by lesser exercises
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would there be any issue of doing this?

monday - Day one

Wednesday - Day 3

Friday - Day 2

Sunday - Day one... and so on and so forth?

i dont know much about bodybuilding, but wouldn't leaving so much time between upper body workouts not be enough?
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would there be any issue of doing this?

monday - Day one

Wednesday - Day 3

Friday - Day 2

Sunday - Day one... and so on and so forth?

i dont know much about bodybuilding, but wouldn't leaving so much time between upper body workouts not be enough?
That would be alright for a while.
Working each muscle group once per week is plenty enough for growth.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:29 AM
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people tend to think that less = bad with bodybuilding.

I have only worked a muscle group directly once a week, never done me any wrong and my gains are still going strong.

less = more in the beginning stages of bodybuilding.

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:03 AM
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people tend to think that less = bad with bodybuilding.

I have only worked a muscle group directly once a week, never done me any wrong and my gains are still going strong.

less = more in the beginning stages of bodybuilding.

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I agree, once a week for newbies is probably the best. However, as you progress in training, I feel you need to change this once a week.

With once a week training, the rest is too long and growth stimulus stops. Remember, protein synthesis is only about 48 hours long.

It has been proven that hitting a bodypart more frequently is very productive. This is how my body works. I need to train more frequent or unfortunately I risk losing my gains.
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i tend to sway away from the training schedules that hit twice a week.

if your living in the gym and trying to fit your diet and life around your constant trips to the gym, how can your rest and recouperate? Thats my take on the issue...

i know i'd burn out with 2 weeks if i was hitting the muscle groups that many times... different strokes for different folks.

if you running clean (no gear) then the recouperation required is pretty hefty if your going to failure... i wouldnt even know where to start with how to plan the routine day to day...
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With once a week training, the rest is too long and growth stimulus stops.
re-looking over what you posted, growth stimulus comes from the stress placed upon the muscle. If you are stressing the muscle enough to force it to adapt in each workout and seeing improvement week upon week, is there a need to do so again in 2-3 days time?

mike mentzer built his body on the 'more = more' principle before coming to the conclusion during his training experiments that you can grow from shorter/less frequent workouts. Why do it two sittings when you can do it in one?

dorian yates switched to his heavy duty style of training and it didnt do him any harm.

members here are no where near that level of course but it goes to show that people need to abandon the fear that if they dont live in the gym glued to a bench they will shrink.
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ive mentioned this many times before, but before i started working out with weights i was a keen cyclist. Unfortunatly my heart is just not all with doing a complete workout on the legs.. i dont mind throwing in a few leg exercises with every workout to keep up the tone, but i wouldn't be able to devote the whole workout to it... is there a problem doing the days 1 and 3 two days apart, and then a day 2 last but incorperate more upper body into it???
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:37 AM
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