Can't get shoulders sore

[atkinson4738]

I am trying desperately to increase the size and strength of my delts. I have tried about every exercise. I have seemed to get stronger with these exercises but not much increase in size. I don't know if it is normal or not, but my lats tend to get extremely sore when I do shoulders, which is why I think I have seen strength gains - my lats are just getting stronger. Yesterday I did front, side, and back lateral raises and my lats are almost sorer than they have ever been, but minimal soreness in my delts. I really focus on my delts but I can't seem to get the benefit there. Anybody have ideas?

Thanks in advance

if your back is getting sore from your shoulder exercises maybe youre doing them wrong? =/ i dont know what it could be?

by the way, just because youre not sore, doesnt mean your muscle isnt getting a hell of a work out. just focus on form and performing the exercise well and stretching the muscle nice and good.

thats all i can tell u.

[Fonz]

yeah i never can get my delts to be sore too. i have no problems with any other muscle group

[Weecrack]

Man , My shoudlers are sore. I was doin upward rows yesterday At 120 lbs 3 sets of 8.

front lateral raises 50 lbs 3 sets of 8

And my lat down 160 3 sets of 8

Could be doin them wrong, When i first started to lift i was haivng the same problem , till i went to my first gym and got schooled on how to do em right, not saying your not doin em right, your form could be a lil sketchy

[Odin92681]

Originally Posted by atkinson4738

I am trying desperately to increase the size and strength of my delts. I have tried about every exercise. I have seemed to get stronger with these exercises but not much increase in size. I don't know if it is normal or not, but my lats tend to get extremely sore when I do shoulders, which is why I think I have seen strength gains - my lats are just getting stronger. Yesterday I did front, side, and back lateral raises and my lats are almost sorer than they have ever been, but minimal soreness in my delts. I really focus on my delts but I can't seem to get the benefit there. Anybody have ideas?

Thanks in advance

It really could be in your form... Try doing the same routine sitting and with some lighter weights, to isolate the delts.

[travis8798]

I have never had my lats get sore from a shoulder workout. In my opinion you must be doing things very wrong for that to happen. One thing to help your case though, I never get sore shoulders either. they feel "dead" after lifting and its a little hard to lift my arms up, but I never get the "burning" soreness the next day like i do in chest or legs or something. and soreness is not exactly an indicator of how well you worked a muscle group.

[CraigC]

I have had great results on shoulders from heavy military press alone. When I first started working out like most newbs I did a lot of chest and arms. I would only work shoulders once every 1 to 1.5 weeks. When I did work then I went real heavy with military press, front raises and upward rows. Got great results although I can't do upright rows anymore as they bother my shoulder... injured it playing hockey.

[vassille]

Ck your form, and also do 10-15 reps-in other words go lighter and concentrate on the shoulde/delts.

[Odin92681]

Originally Posted by vassille

Ck your form, and also do 10-15 reps-in other words go lighter and concentrate on the shoulde/delts.

Bump That ^^^

[atkinson4738]

I know my form is good, I focus on that much more than I focus on weight, (as opposed to most of the yahoos at the gym) but I usually do a reverse pyramid 10-8-6-4. Maybe that is my issue, I think I may be using to much weight and recruiting body parts, obviously I don't want to be using. I will try to do 12-15 reps and see if that sparks some growth. travis8798 - I have felt that way after I do my shoulder workouts, more of that dead numb type feeling you talk about, so that gives me some hope I am still working my delts. Thanks guys.

[Odin92681]

Instead of 10-8-6-4, try 12-8-failure with lighter wt.

[juggalo24]

If I have a problem knowing what muscle I'm really working the most, I do a burnout session, and go until you find out where it burns at, and that's where it's working

works for me, give it a try

[tuf-fuk]

Agree with juggalo24

[tuf-fuk]

have to agree with this to, go to the gym and find an experienced work out buddy who can show you the correct form. Even if you think you know what you doing it wont hurt to make sure.

[tuf-fuk]

Sorry still new at this, I was agreeing with travis8798' comment

[Weecrack]

Youll know when your shoudler are done, as with any mscle if you go to burnout, Youll shake, and such form doin the lightest weight. tahts how i accomplished my traps and shoulders and such. When i lifted on them i lifted myt heaviest 3 sets of 6-8 , then burned therm out for the first 6 months, they were sore as hell all the time bt i feel it worked

[_SaVvY_]

- pre-exaust your triceps by working them pretty hard before hand
- after this, get the light bar, an a load of small plates, get as many 1.25kgs as you can, might have to settle for some 2.5kg's though, depends on your gym
- get a spotter
- now, using seated over head press (with an elevated bench) - put the weight to what you could do for 3-4 reps, an do 2
- strip a plate off an do 3
strip a plate off an do 4
- strip another, 5
- strip another, 6
- all the way till the end
- if you fail getting to the numbers, then strip 2 plates off for next one, an go for the same number you were stuck on
- you should end up maxing out with just the bar

the final number of reps should be a high number, guess it depends on your strength for how many plates you put on for 2

i can just straight up say that if this doesnt work, then you have either done it wrong, or you aint tried hard enough

[Dave170]

Dude, I have never been able to get mine to be sore either...damndest thing..but no matter, they are still growing..just work them hard and don't worry about it.

[Timothy]

Originally Posted by _SaVvY_

- pre-exaust your triceps by working them pretty hard before hand
- after this, get the light bar, an a load of small plates, get as many 1.25kgs as you can, might have to settle for some 2.5kg's though, depends on your gym
- get a spotter
- now, using seated over head press (with an elevated bench) - put the weight to what you could do for 3-4 reps, an do 2
- strip a plate off an do 3
strip a plate off an do 4
- strip another, 5
- strip another, 6
- all the way till the end
- if you fail getting to the numbers, then strip 2 plates off for next one, an go for the same number you were stuck on
- you should end up maxing out with just the bar

the final number of reps should be a high number, guess it depends on your strength for how many plates you put on for 2

i can just straight up say that if this doesnt work, then you have either done it wrong, or you aint tried hard enough

I think that you wouldn't want to pre-exhaust your triceps. If they're more tired than your delts, then they'll give out sooner, and that means that your delts won't get as good of a workout.

My suggestion is to pre-exhaust the deltoids. I do two sets of lateral cable raises as a warm-up before I start the shoulder portion of my workout.

[sickman99]

bump on that