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Old 04-10-2006, 05:14 PM
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Good read but this part is total B.S.


3. Bodypart Training Frequency - Recovery will vary but remember this point, a muscle can begin to atrophy after 72 hours. Atrophy, or muscle loss, is just as natural as muscle gain. A bodybuilder's body is very sensitive and when it recognizes a lack of stress, its high condition will make it work as effective toward atrophy as it will toward muscle development. So you can risk losing some muscle if you wait longer than 3 days to work a muscle group. Now a muscle may atrophy after 72 hours but it doesnt mean it takes 72 hours for recovery. Muscle recovers much faster than it does to atrophy.
I totally agree w/Patrick. What empirical data do they have to back this up? I've read quite a bit that says the opposite, and nothing that supports this. If I worked every muscle every 3 days I would look horrible and feel even worse!
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3. Bodypart Training Frequency - Recovery will vary but remember this point, a muscle can begin to atrophy after 72 hours. Atrophy, or muscle loss, is just as natural as muscle gain. A bodybuilder's body is very sensitive and when it recognizes a lack of stress, its high condition will make it work as effective toward atrophy as it will toward muscle development. So you can risk losing some muscle if you wait longer than 3 days to work a muscle group. Now a muscle may atrophy after 72 hours but it doesnt mean it takes 72 hours for recovery. Muscle recovers much faster than it does to atrophy.

So on that one your saying that if I don't work out the same muscle within 3 days of each other that i will start to lose my muscle? I work each muscle out once a week, which I have heard is the way to do it. But maybe I'm wrong...?
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:17 AM
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So on that one your saying that if I don't work out the same muscle within 3 days of each other that i will start to lose my muscle? I work each muscle out once a week, which I have heard is the way to do it. But maybe I'm wrong...?
IMO you'll be fine. Lets take biceps for example. Say you work them on Mondays. They will also be getting worked on back days and even get a little bit of stimulation on other upper body days. I believe that this would be enough to prevent or at least minimize atrophy.

And for working out each muscle once a week there is no "way to do it." Different things work for different people.
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3. Bodypart Training Frequency - Recovery will vary but remember this point, a muscle can begin to atrophy after 72 hours. Atrophy, or muscle loss, is just as natural as muscle gain. A bodybuilder's body is very sensitive and when it recognizes a lack of stress, its high condition will make it work as effective toward atrophy as it will toward muscle development. So you can risk losing some muscle if you wait longer than 3 days to work a muscle group. Now a muscle may atrophy after 72 hours but it doesnt mean it takes 72 hours for recovery. Muscle recovers much faster than it does to atrophy.
I totally agree with this guy! High intensity training recovery have been studied an for larger muscle group can take up to 7 days to recover.

Old studies from where this belief of atrophy after 3 days, train a body part twice a week has been proved completly wrong in case of heavy weight training
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I totally agree w/Patrick. What empirical data do they have to back this up? I've read quite a bit that says the opposite, and nothing that supports this. If I worked every muscle every 3 days I would look horrible and feel even worse!
It says atrophy CAN begin in as little as 3 days not that it will. I think it's safe to assume with a good diet and workout plan it takes longer for them to begin to atrophy. I think it's just saying if you don't have everything locked down, you could be losing muscle in 3 days.
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I diagree with that npayette. If I waited 7 days to hit the same muscle group, I will not see much growth. In fact, I stagnate. I cant go more than 4-5 days without hitting the muscle again or I risk losing my gains or having them plateau. A full 7 days to me is too much rest.

I am doing doggcrapp now where I can hit the same muscle group 3 times in a matter of 9 days. And yes, its high intensity training and heavy. And this method works. You cant deny the numerous success this training has had on bodybuilders.
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:27 PM
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I diagree with that npayette. If I waited 7 days to hit the same muscle group, I will not see much growth. In fact, I stagnate. I cant go more than 4-5 days without hitting the muscle again or I risk losing my gains or having them plateau. A full 7 days to me is too much rest.

I am doing doggcrapp now where I can hit the same muscle group 3 times in a matter of 9 days. And yes, its high intensity training and heavy. And this method works. You cant deny the numerous success this training has had on bodybuilders.
Then let's ask : Are you a natural bodybuilder? (Roids? Prohormone?)

I am not saying you CAN'T have good gain doing it. It's not optimal tho. (I am assuming natural bodybuilding.)

I am also asking for more info about your periodization thing... Can you explain me a bit more on why??? I'm curious.
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3. Bodypart Training Frequency - Recovery will vary but remember this point, a muscle can begin to atrophy after 72 hours. Atrophy, or muscle loss, is just as natural as muscle gain. A bodybuilder's body is very sensitive and when it recognizes a lack of stress, its high condition will make it work as effective toward atrophy as it will toward muscle development. So you can risk losing some muscle if you wait longer than 3 days to work a muscle group. Now a muscle may atrophy after 72 hours but it doesnt mean it takes 72 hours for recovery. Muscle recovers much faster than it does to atrophy.
Don't say that. I'm listening to people here and they're saying to excercise a muscle once a week. This sucks.
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