Apple Cider Vinegar and bodybuilding supplements

[freshlytainted]

apple cider vinegar (ACV) is an awesome natural health supplement that i recommend everyone to take. i take about half a shot diluted in water twice a day.

thing is, i'm not sure how whey/creatine/glutamine would react to it. would ACV nullify or denature bodybuilding supplements?

[freshlytainted]

does NO-ONE take apple cider vinegar???

[lostboyrufio]

Could you post some literature as to why it's so good? Not being a smart ass, i was just wondering.

[Hawkwind]

ACV tablets:
Apple Cider Vinegar Tablets - Get the Skinny on Diets

From a random site about the benefits of ACV:

Apple Cider Vinegar has been used as a health aid for thousands of years. For many of us it is a common item on our grocery list and with good reason. ACV is rich in vitamins and minerals as well as enzymes, amino acids, potash, propionic acid and apple pectin. It can lower cholesterol by flushing fats, thins blood to help control blood pressure and ACV fiber helps to control glucose in the blood. While we are told to stay away from vinegar if we have a yeastinfection, organic apple cider vinegar aids in stopping the infection.


ACV has a powerful detoxifying and purifying influence and has been known for it's ability to neutralise harmful bacteria that may be found in foods. By taking a tablespoon of ACV in a glass of water before a meal, it could prevent upset stomach or diarrhea.


ACV is said to be beneficial in the treatment of arthritis, bladder, metabolism, sore throats, gallstones, kidney stones, detoxifying the body,weight, and is taken regularly for all over good health.

Apple Cider Vinegar can be taken three times a day by mixing 1 or 2 tablespoons of vinegar in 8 ounces of distilled water.


Always drink ACV diluted. Use a straw or rinse your mouth with water directly after drinking to avoid enamel erosion on teeth.

[Hawkwind]

As for the original question...I wouldn't take it close to my other supps...basically because vinegar, even diluted can wreck havoc with anything milk based.

*Not basing the above on any research/science...but on plan ole' common sense. And no, I don't use ACV.

[freshlytainted]

Originally Posted by lostboyrufio

Could you post some literature as to why it's so good? Not being a smart ass, i was just wondering.

From http://www.buzzle.com/articles/healt...-vinegar.html:

In all likelihood, you have a bottle of sparkling clear apple cider vinegar in your kitchen. Most probably you have also heard of all the health benefits of this wonder vinegar . You use it for marinating the meat, chicken and fish. Almost all the salads that you make contain apple cider vinegar. You make a conscious effort to put in a little extra every time, so as to gain from all its good healing properties. If you are using apple cider vinegar that is clear and sparkling, the news is not very good. This apple cider vinegar does not contain all the health benefits that you have heard of.

The Real Apple Cider Vinegar
The apple cider vinegar that contains all of the health benefits is not a clear vinegar, but just the opposite. It is an organic and unfiltered vinegar . It is not a clear liquid, but has got a brownish tinge to it. If you try looking through it, you will notice a tiny cobweb-like substance floating in it. This is known as "mother", and means just one thing. This apple cider vinegar is of good quality with all the nutrients and health giving properties intact.

Just think. Would you buy a vinegar from the supermarket that is not clear, has got a brown tinge to it, and most of all you find something floating in it. In all likelihood you will not buy this. This is the prime reason why manufacturers distil the vinegar. The pure vinegar is steamed to get the sparking clear vinegar that is available at the supermarket. This steaming process destroys almost all of the health giving nutrients. What it does do is give the vinegar an excellent eye appeal.

Health benefits
There surely must be something really healthy in using apple cider vinegar, since The Father of Medicine, Hippocrates, used this vinegar around 400 B.C. for its health giving qualities. It is said that he had only two remedies: honey and apple cider vinegar.

Apple cider vinegar is made from fresh ripe apples that are fermented and undergo a stringent process to create the final product. The vinegar contains a host of vitamins, beta-carotene, pectin and vital minerals such as potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, phosphorous, chlorine, sulphur, iron, and fluorine.

Pectin in the vinegar is a fiber which helps reduce bad cholesterol and helps in regulating blood pressure. The need for calcium supplements once you start growing older is very well known. This vinegar helps extract calcium from the fruits, vegetables and meat it is mixed with, helping in the process of maintaining strong bones. Potassium deficiency causes a variety of ailments including hair loss, weak finger nails, brittle teeth, sinusitis, and a permanently running nose. Apple cider vinegar is loaded with potassium. Studies have shown that potassium deficiency results in stunted growth. All these ailments can be avoided with the intake of apple cider vinegar. The potassium in this vinegar also helps in eliminating toxic waste from the body. The beta-carotene helps in countering damage caused by free radicals, helping one maintain firmer skin and a youthful appearance. Apple cider vinegar is good for those wanting to lose weight. It helps in breaking down fat which helps in natural weight reduction.

Apple cider vinegar contains malic acid which is very helpful in fighting fungal and bacterial infections. This acid dissolves uric acid deposits that form around joints, helping relieve joint pains. This dissolved uric acid is gradually eliminated from the body.

It is claimed that apple cider vinegar is helpful in ailments such as constipation, headaches, arthritis, weak bones, indigestion, high cholesterol, diarrhea, eczema, sore eyes, chronic fatigue, mild food poisoning, hair loss, high blood pressure, obesity, along with a host of many other ailments. No wonder then many know apple cider vinegar as the "Wonder Drug".

Different ways of consumption
Please make sure that you use only the natural, organic variety of apple cider vinegar; the sparkling clear variety will have practically no health benefits.

Many call apple cider vinegar the Wonder Drug . Propagators of this wonder drug claim that the best way to have the vinegar is first thing in the morning. Mix two tablespoons each of apple cider vinegar and honey in a glass of water and drink it. This solution may taste slightly acidic, and may not seem to be the best way to start your morning, but once you know of the immense benefits that follow, it will not feel all that bad. Many find that following this routine first thing in the morning helps in eliminating constipation, which is one of the prime causes of many diseases. Constipation is also sometimes the cause of headaches - leading to a bad mood, deprived sleep, and a lethargic feeling the whole day. Once the constipation problem is solved, all the other symptoms vanish immediately, making you fresher and extremely active whole day long. Following this morning regime helps minor skin rashes vanish and the skin texture too improves, leaving you radiant and glowing naturally.

You can also enjoy the benefits of this wonder vinegar in many other ways. Use apple cider vinegar while preparing salads. Substitute the oil that is poured over a salad with this vinegar. Not only will the salad have a tangier taste, it will be much healthier too. Use this vinegar to pickle an assortment of fruits and vegetables. Marinating beef, pork, lamb, fish and a variety of meats is almost a daily process for meat eaters. Make apple cider vinegar the prime ingredient in the marinade with an assortment of herbs and spices. This marinade will not only help in flavoring and tenderizing the meat, but it also comes with all the health benefits that have already been mentioned.

Having that chilled glass of lemon juice can be substituted with a couple tablespoons apple cider vinegar and water. Some prefer the taste as is. If the taste is too acidic for you, add honey to give it the sweet tinge. Adding honey will only improve the health benefits.

Yea Hawkwind, that's fair enough. But does the acidity of ACV (usually 5%) help digest whey faster? I can't find any articles on google. What I have found out from random sites about ACV is that you can take it just before food to aid in digestion (because it's acidic, perhaps?). I'd try looking for that article again and post it here if I can find it. What i'm thinking is: protein digestion starts in the acidic environment of the stomach, thus, ACV should help whey get absorbed more quickly. It's not based on anything scientific. Of course, I wouldn't take creatine or glutamine with it.

[lostboyrufio]

Thanks for the read.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by freshlytainted

From [url]. What i'm thinking is: protein digestion starts in the acidic environment of the stomach, thus, ACV should help whey get absorbed more quickly. It's not based on anything scientific.

I still don't see the benefit. If you are trying to grow and put on size, eat a steak or some other kind of meat. If you want a fast absorption of whey PWO, then just add a little dextrose.

[Renegade68]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

I still don't see the benefit. If you are trying to grow and put on size, eat a steak or some other kind of meat. If you want a fast absorption of whey PWO, then just add a little dextrose.

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[Merk0135]

Let's get one myth out of the way. People tend to think that if they don't down protein immediatly after lifting their body will go into a catabolic state and eat their muscle. This just isn't the case. You have an hour and a half window. So, when you're done lifting go home and get yourself a solid meal with lots of protein, carbs and veggies. You don't need a protein shake to prevent catabolism or add more muscle. Same thing applies when you wake up in the morning. People tend to think that unless you sleep in the kitchen and wake-up with a protein shake in your mouth the body will start to eat its self. Again, the body doesn't react like this. Just wake up and eat a solid meal.

[lee thompson]

there are no miracle supps over good food period.

[dannyboy9]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

Let's get one myth out of the way. People tend to think that if they don't down protein immediatly after lifting their body will go into a catabolic state and eat their muscle. This just isn't the case. You have an hour and a half window. So, when you're done lifting go home and get yourself a solid meal with lots of protein, carbs and veggies. You don't need a protein shake to prevent catabolism or add more muscle. Same thing applies when you wake up in the morning. People tend to think that unless you sleep in the kitchen and wake-up with a protein shake in your mouth the body will start to eat its self. Again, the body doesn't react like this. Just wake up and eat a solid meal.

True story. Many fall victim to expending energy perfecting the things that are insignificant rather than working to build up their diet, lifestyle habits and proper lifting execution. Unless you're running marathons or lifting twice a day, you'll live if you don't have a shake immediately following a lifting session. I plan on consuming a shake after my workout due to the fact that I'd like to shower at my gym after I'm done to go ahead and get it out of the way so I'll start sipping a shake thereafter my session. Other than that, a good pre-workout meal will hold you over nicely if indeed, you don't happen to have a shake around. Again, a shake is not necessary and you won't lose a great amount of muscle mass (if any) if you go 4 hours instead of 3 hours w/o eating.