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Old 06-22-2007, 11:20 AM
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yeh im never ever going to take roids. if anything id try prohormones someday but not roids. and im not going to get tribulus if you really think its shiit.

ok maybe not flamed but it seems like you talk to people wanting help in a way that makes them feel stupid, which is never a good way of helping. you should try being a little more constructive criticism to HELP people instead of bashing about how stupid they are-which i am not. maybe a bit thickheaded, but i just wanted opinions.

right now im just going to get:
onward use of my multi
more whey
fish oil caps
kre alkalyn caps
and possible bcaas like Xtend.

thats all until im older and can mess with hormonal stuff. thank you very much.
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Take Vyotech 17-HD.

It is freaking amazing from the first pill. I was at the Arnold Classic, this year, and everyone was talking about it.

I met the guy, who came up with the product. He was a very sharp guy. He gave me some samples, and I freaking love it. No side effects, either.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:28 AM
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i have been 18 for while and have been interested in trying something relating to test booster. not prohormones or steroids, lol never 4 me, but a great LEGAL, or at least somewhat legal (lol) test booster.

what has actually worked well for some of you wonderful guys out there???

i know a good "test booster"! About 5 mins b4 ur work out give urself some "attention" then just as ur about 2 finish...STOP! u'll be pumped up 4 hours!!!!
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Brother, you have no clue what your talking about. Just cuz something isnt illegal doesnt mean its 100% safe.

Anabolic Xtreme Triple Stack includes the supplement Hyperdrol...... it has 6-BrAD (6-Bromodione) which is an anti-aromatize.

favorite test booster
What about someone who is 28 years old? I am planning to stack Hypedrol with Mass Fx for a 8 week cycle. I might add UPS labs anbolic pump. After that 8 week i'll keep it simple.. Protein, creatine bcaa, multivitamin etc.

What would you say about that Traps? From your answers you seem you have the knowlegde!!
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Take Vyotech 17-HD.

It is freaking amazing from the first pill. I was at the Arnold Classic, this year, and everyone was talking about it.

I met the guy, who came up with the product. He was a very sharp guy. He gave me some samples, and I freaking love it. No side effects, either.
You must be the president of the company or something. That stuff is garbage and you spouting it off as the next legal steroid and as if pro bodybuilders take it is complete B.S. You are a fvcking troll.
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Don't take tribulus, it is a waste of cash.

I took it and the only effect it had on me was that I was horny as hell and I had less cash in my wallet.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:10 AM
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I say google epistane or havoc ( same compunds, different names). But you do need PCT for them.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:15 AM
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Epistane and Havoc are not PH's, theyre steroids.
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yeh im never ever going to take roids. if anything id try prohormones someday but not roids. and im not going to get tribulus if you really think its shiit.

ok maybe not flamed but it seems like you talk to people wanting help in a way that makes them feel stupid, which is never a good way of helping. you should try being a little more constructive criticism to HELP people instead of bashing about how stupid they are-which i am not. maybe a bit thickheaded, but i just wanted opinions.

right now im just going to get:
onward use of my multi
more whey
fish oil caps
kre alkalyn caps
and possible bcaas like Xtend.

thats all until im older and can mess with hormonal stuff. thank you very much.
No one is trying to flame you, but if your given a reccomendation and you blindly pass it thinking you know better and continue to ask after someone with more experience gave you the RIGHT answer then what can you expect.

Bottom line the way the supplement industry works is this:
-Product is created
-Product is put on the shelf
-Product is consumed by consumers

The product is NOT tested by the FDA before it is put on the shelf. SO in essence you could release any product you want into the market. If suspicion then occurs the FDA will THEN test the product and pull it off the shelves if it contains things that it should not.

This is what was happening back in the day when Pres Bush banned pro-hormones...There were plenty of products on the shelves that contained all the compounds for a steroid except for one which was created naturally by your body. SO the product itself was not a steroid but once it was consumed it became one. That was in most of these "Test boosters" that your asking about. BMF Hardcore's MTEST, the original Animal Mtest, and all the rest of them all had these.

Now since the law was passed there are still "Test Enhancers" on the market but they all suck. Back in the day you could take Mtest and put on 9lbs in 1 month...thats not happening anymore. They have "modified" versions of these enhancers and if you compare ingrediants the "kick in the ass" has been taken out of them.

To say that your not going to do steroids but you will do a test enhancer is stupid...because thats what a steroid does...and if you get a "true" test enhancer its a steroid or prohormone.

Your 18, your test levels will be great and wont start to even plateau until your 25. Eat your wheaties, take your protien shakes, spike yourself with some creatine and take this time to grow naturally. Anything you buy right now is a waste of money.
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if your gonna go the test boost route, Animal has two good test boosters. Animal Stak and their even more potent Animal Test. Those r the ones im using rignt now but im 25 yrs old. from what i understand, Test boosters are mainly suited for males in their mid 20's-40's. I think creatine is a must but if mass is what ur going for, i would rather include a potent multi vitamine (Animal Pak), some kind of Preworkout N.O. and a couple of gainer shakes a day.
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if your gonna go the test boost route, Animal has two good test boosters. Animal Stak and their even more potent Animal Test. Those r the ones im using rignt now but im 25 yrs old. from what i understand, Test boosters are mainly suited for males in their mid 20's-40's. I think creatine is a must but if mass is what ur going for, i would rather include a potent multi vitamine (Animal Pak), some kind of Preworkout N.O. and a couple of gainer shakes a day.
Theres not one ingredient in either one of those that is gonna raise your testosterone. Complete waste of money. Bottom line is there is no product thats gonna raise your natural test significantly enough to do ****. Tribulus may raise it ever so slightly, so will nolvadex or clomid but only when youre in a post cycle state and are hypogonadic to start with.


You want a list of sh!t that actually works look here at this list of banned substances from the OCB. Theres quite a few "PH's" on here including Epistane/Havoc, Finigen x magnum, tren extreme, etc. Bear in mind these arent test boosters though, theyre designer steroids.

http://www.theocbwebsite.com/BannedSubstances.htm
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:32 AM
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I heard that if you take every supplement available you don't even have to eat food. My buddy did that for a year and now he's on roids and HUGE and RIPPED






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Old 10-29-2008, 06:23 AM
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Don't take tribulus, it is a waste of cash.

I took it and the only effect it had on me was that I was horny as hell and I had less cash in my wallet.
I thought this was the funniest statement of all. Do you know what high levels of test would do to your body... hmmmmmmmmmm probably make you horny.
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isn't trib only effective for guys over 35?
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isn't trib only effective for guys over 35?
That's how it's marketed, although the research backing this up is sketchy at best. There may be a marginal increase, but nothing worth plopping down some cash on.
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Check out getdiesel's diesel test hardcore or diesel test 2010, if you just wanna test booster.
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