L-Arginine?

[gforce219]

I'm thinking about taking an L-Arginine supplement with my protein shake and multi. Is it worth it? Does it actually do anything? Is it harmful? I need some questions answered.Recommendations? I dont wanna take NO-explode because i don't want the caffiene. Thanks all!

[virus]

It has the potential to increase endurance and give you good strength gains. Including the known pumps it gives that alot of people enjoy doing a workout. This also increases blood flow which can aide in feeding the muscles with protein and oxygen and etc.

Harmful? No. Worth it? Maybe. You can try regular l-arginine and see what happens.

[bigale]

Originally Posted by virus

It has the potential to increase endurance and give you good strength gains. Including the known pumps it gives that alot of people enjoy doing a workout. This also increases blood flow which can aide in feeding the muscles with protein and oxygen and etc.

Harmful? No. Worth it? Maybe. You can try regular l-arginine and see what happens.

i was under the impression its use is to help with fat lose! helping to breakdown fat and use it as an energy source.

[Chauncey11]

My reccomendation on l-arginine is to stay away from the capsules. U need roughly around 5-10 grams. Get the powder but, just to let u know, it tastes horrible. But i do see a differnence with it.

[stb24]

Originally Posted by bigale

i was under the impression its use is to help with fat lose! helping to breakdown fat and use it as an energy source.

thats L-Carnitine

[virus]

Originally Posted by Chauncey11

My reccomendation on l-arginine is to stay away from the capsules. U need roughly around 5-10 grams. Get the powder but, just to let u know, it tastes horrible. But i do see a differnence with it.

Yeah I agree. And I also agree the supplement your refering to big-ale is CLA aka L-carinate.

[bigale]

Originally Posted by virus

Yeah I agree. And I also agree the supplement your refering to big-ale is CLA aka L-carinate.

oh yeah

thanks

[dannyboy9]

I read a study a while back that mentioned Arginine lowered GH levels (in the study)

That stinks

[Traps]

I experienced absolutely zero effect from Arginine Alpha Ketoglutrate.

[dannyboy9]

Oral arginine attenuates the growth hormone response to resistance exercise
S. R. Collier, E. Collins, and J. A. Kanaley

Department of Exercise Science, Syracuse University, Syracuse, New York

Submitted 7 March 2006 ; accepted in final form 23 May 2006

This study investigated the combined effect of resistance exercise and arginine ingestion on spontaneous growth hormone (GH) release. Eight healthy male subjects were studied randomly on four separate occasions [placebo, arginine (Arg), placebo + exercise (Ex), arginine + exercise (Arg+Ex)]. Subjects had blood sampled every 10 min for 3.5 h. After baseline sampling (30 min), subjects ingested a 7-g dose of arginine or placebo (blinded, randomly assigned). On the exercise days, the subject performed 3 sets of 9 exercises, 10 repetitions at 80% one repetition maximum. Resting GH concentrations were similar on each study day. Integrated GH area under the curve was significantly higher on the Ex day (508.7 ± 169.6 min·ng/ml; P < 0.05) than on any of the other study days. Arg+Ex (260.5 ± 76.8 min·ng/ml) resulted in a greater response than the placebo day but not significantly greater than the Arg day. The GH half-life and half duration were not influenced by the stimulus administered. The GH secretory burst mass was larger, but not significantly, on the Arg, Ex, and Arg+Ex day than the placebo day. Endogenous GH production rate (Ex > Arg+Ex > Arg > placebo) was greater on the Ex and Arg+Ex day than on the placebo day (P < 0.05) but there were no differences between the Ex and Arg+Ex day. Oral arginine alone (7 g) stimulated GH release, but a greater GH response was seen with exercise alone. The combined effect of arginine before exercise attenuates the GH response. Autonegative feedback possibly causes a refractory period such that when the two stimuli are presented there will be suppression of the somatotrope.

[cpcg32]

So could supplementing arginine only on non-workout days be beneficial in order to maintain higher GH levels?

[JJH]

I took L-Arginine for a long time and never saw any benefits from it. Then again, I took the capsules so maybe that was the problem. This has been disscussed many times on this board and it seems like the general concensus is that this supp isn't effective for most (not all) people.

[Traps]

I've also heard that l-arginine supplemention potentiates hair loss.

[dannyboy9]

Originally Posted by Traps

I've also heard that l-arginine supplemention potentiates hair loss.

Dang....I don't even think supplementation will make that much of a positiver impact on one's progress anyways so that's why I've never considered arginine myself but HAIR LOSS? As much as that might not be proven I don't want to be part of the few that prove that theory correct.