Creatine and Others...

[SoccerTiger00]

I have a buddy who told me at one point that while on creatine, caffinee and alcohol will have the same affect and wipe the creatine from your system. Has anyone else heard this or is it even true? I would like to read any studies either way on this issue if someone has one.

Also, when I'm cycling I take: Creatine, Glutamine, d-Ribose, Protein, ZMA, a multivitamin, and protest. Does anyone have any suggestions to what I should also be taking or what I can scrap? I'm about 165 and want to push up to 185.

[GetNPumped]

hey man, i wouldnt mess around with to much test boosting supps right away. idwait until you've been into lifting for awhile. id say start with protien Explore a few different protiens, some are more for staying lean and others will get you bulk and then you may have to ease off and cut for awhile. I see no reason for nat. test boosters at our age (19 and under) we our in our prime. i know when i started eating healthy i felt different right away, more energy and not lazy or "weighed down." Low fats, good carbs, protien, greens and repeat. A good daily is Megamen(i know GNC but i like it). Get something with aminos. good rising up creatine is Kre-Alkalyn.
Good luck man.


-Stay Strong-

[virus]

The glut is controversal. I don't use it cause I don't believe in it but others do so whatever. The ribose you can junk. I agree with the above, no need for test supplements cause I would bet your under 30 years of age.

I think the whole don't take caffeine while on creatine is a bunch of poo... I personally have taken alot of different creatine cycles. Did some with no to minimal usage of caffeine, and many many with alot of coffee and caffeine pills and I notice no difference in the effects of the creatine. I know many who take ECA stacks while on creatine.

I can't find the study or article I read. If it comes up i'll post it up for ya.

[warri0r87]

Originally Posted by virus

The glut is controversal. I don't use it cause I don't believe in it but others do so whatever. The ribose you can junk. I agree with the above, no need for test supplements cause I would bet your under 30 years of age.

I think the whole don't take caffeine while on creatine is a bunch of poo... I personally have taken alot of different creatine cycles. Did some with no to minimal usage of caffeine, and many many with alot of coffee and caffeine pills and I notice no difference in the effects of the creatine. I know many who take ECA stacks while on creatine.

I can't find the study or article I read. If it comes up i'll post it up for ya.

caffine is not a diruetic during sport btw, so u can take it. although dont rely on caffine to get through ur sessions.

and bump to everything every1 else has said.

[macro]

Originally Posted by SoccerTiger00

I have a buddy who told me at one point that while on creatine, caffinee and alcohol will have the same affect and wipe the creatine from your system. Has anyone else heard this or is it even true? I would like to read any studies either way on this issue if someone has one.

Also, when I'm cycling I take: Creatine, Glutamine, d-Ribose, Protein, ZMA, a multivitamin, and protest. Does anyone have any suggestions to what I should also be taking or what I can scrap? I'm about 165 and want to push up to 185.

creatine- try PureCEE (or other chromadex tested creatine ethyl ester)

oral glutamine is pretty worthless- try glutamine peptides, n-acetyl-glutamine or alanyl-l-glutamine (so that glutamine makes it to the plasma)

d- ribose is a waste of money

ZMA is ok, most atheletes dont get enough of these minerals, but other than cure deficiency it does not do much

not sure what "protest" is... if its a tribulus formula- dont expect anything other than libido- has no impact WHATSOEVER on testosterone levels


as a note- caffiene does not have any negative effect on creatine, other than requiring greater water intake (because its a diuretic)... the original creatine studies were done with caffienated tea

[SoccerTiger00]

Does anyone have any info on alcohol clearing creatine from your system? I didn't think caffinee did, but I'm more curious about if I need to re load after a night on the town.

[warri0r87]

its possible that alcohol may release some creatine from ur body but im unaware of any research done on that. alcohol on the other hand will dehydrate u and works to the opposite of what creatine does.

[macro]

Originally Posted by SoccerTiger00

Does anyone have any info on alcohol clearing creatine from your system? I didn't think caffinee did, but I'm more curious about if I need to re load after a night on the town.

no evidence that it does. However both increase water needs, so if taking creatine and your drink make sure to hydrate well (drink water both while and after drinking- though thats generally a good idea)