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Old 12-11-2006, 02:25 PM
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im not sure which i want to get, either BSN No Xplode and Cellmass and buy cheap walmart EAS whey, or get the cheaper and more Higher Power creatine mono, AAKG powder w/caffeine pills, and then get their whey along with it. what ur guys' honest opinion?

i personally know the BSN stack worked for me about a year ago when i tried it, but the Higher Power supps seem like more of a bargain for the price. what do u think?
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idk, man itd be about the same price just to let u know, just idk about what works better. also id get more for the same price if i go with the Higher Power stuff, while the BSN stuff would last abouth a month instead of 2 like the other stuff. so ne takes???
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idk, man itd be about the same price just to let u know, just idk about what works better. also id get more for the same price if i go with the Higher Power stuff, while the BSN stuff would last abouth a month instead of 2 like the other stuff. so ne takes???
BSN products are pretty good...but try some ALRI Primed/Regeneration X/N'Gorge stack...or Shock Therapy/Storm/Xtend stack...possibly just go to nutraplanet.com and get their mass pump stack for 20$ lol (heard great reviews about it too...CEE/AEE/Citrulline Malate) add with a stimulant and BOOM! cheaper version of NO-Xplode lol
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wow dude i looked into that mass pump stack and looks freakin awesome! lol im gonna get that now, and ill get some caffeine pills along with it so i have the energy as well. thnx alot man, i woulda never found that site, lol. so ima get that mass pump stack for 20 bucks along with caffeine pills for 5 bucks then get some ON whey or sumthin for another 20-30. KEWL.
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wow dude i looked into that mass pump stack and looks freakin awesome! lol im gonna get that now, and ill get some caffeine pills along with it so i have the energy as well. thnx alot man, i woulda never found that site, lol. so ima get that mass pump stack for 20 bucks along with caffeine pills for 5 bucks then get some ON whey or sumthin for another 20-30. KEWL.
ya no problem...they have a lot of bulk powders for cheap
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Hey guys, just started reading in this section, and have been learning a lot. I have been cutting for about 3 months, and I think in January I will start bulking as I have shed alot of fat and need to put on some mass. A couple guys I train with had recommended NO Xplode, and reading this thread I was interested in what you said Spartan about alternatives, that would be cheaper (cheaper is good) but I can't find that mass pump stack on the site, am I looking in the wrong place? Anyway, thanks, learning a lot.
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go tot hat site, then look under the little bar that says Categories, then click on Stacks. itl be listed there then just go from there. Im gonaa buy that satck by the end of the week. cant freakin wait man.
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Sweet thanks. Can anyone break down what's in there a bit, like I said I am pretty new to these supplements. Or a link with a breakdown or something would be great. Thanks!
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EAS actually makes some good whey protein. I found it no different the the ON whey, but the EAS stuff is more expensive around here. If you can get the EAS whey isolate cheap from walmart I would go for it.
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well New Guy, lol, um CEE is creatine with better absortion into the muscle, and creatine increases strength and etc, and aarginine is for opening the veins and for better pumps. the other citrullus malate idk 4 sure, but sounds like some kinda health/energy kinda deal. but good price.

and Craig, yeh but the whey that is EAS at walmart is whey concentrate, id rather have the isolate, but more expensive. lol and they dont got that
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well New Guy, lol, um CEE is creatine with better absortion into the muscle, and creatine increases strength and etc, and aarginine is for opening the veins and for better pumps. the other citrullus malate idk 4 sure, but sounds like some kinda health/energy kinda deal. but good price.

and Craig, yeh but the whey that is EAS at walmart is whey concentrate, id rather have the isolate, but more expensive. lol and they dont got that
citrulline malate is an NO-precursor basically so it helps increase your pumps and saturate your muscles better with AEE and CEE also helps some with getting rid of anti-oxidants

like right now im taking
Shock Therapy/Storm stack
Scivation Xtend
Multi-vitamin/anti-oxidant
NHA stack (protest stack)
AM protein shake/PM protein shake
FOOD...FOOD...FOOD!

if your just starting out always remember to keep your diet in check get enough protein and healthy carbs/cals...start slow with protein shake and then some creatine and some NO
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Hey guys thanks for the info. So basically NO xplode is like a creatine with argenine added in to boost that pump fee;ling? Does the pump feeling actually aid in increased gains or is it more mental motivation? Also, is that Mass Pump stack on that site basically just a cheaper version of NO Xplode?

Right now my main thing is keeping the diet in check. I've been cutting for 3.5 months and have lost about 28 pounds, almost down to a six pack, stilla bit to go, so I want to start back onsomething like this in January when I start eating again! It will be weird, wait, you mean I have to eat more today? Sweet.

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yeh definetley just like spartan said, u gotta have a great diet for any supps to even work like they are upposed to. make sure you eat all protein, and keep it clean and you shld stay lean for the most part. as far as NO Xplode, its a preworkout drink that is mainly arginine-NO for ur pumps and veins, while havin some creatine EE in it for strength, and caffeine for energy rush. the pumps do help you increase strength as the quality of your workouts increases and you get more nutrients delivered to your muscles, along with creatine.

im ordering that mass pump satck 2morrow off that site, along with a 5 lb tub of ON 1005 Whey standard. only payin like 45-50 bucks for alll of it, so hell yeh man! lol
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Thanks dude. Having kept my diet this insanely strict so far, using an excel spreadsheet daily etc, I am thinking I'll be alrighty when I start bulking. So absically, is that mass pump stack the equivilant of NO Xplode, but cheaper? No Xplode is 65 bucks where i can get it IN Canada, so this would be cheaper.
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Thanks dude. Having kept my diet this insanely strict so far, using an excel spreadsheet daily etc, I am thinking I'll be alrighty when I start bulking. So absically, is that mass pump stack the equivilant of NO Xplode, but cheaper? No Xplode is 65 bucks where i can get it IN Canada, so this would be cheaper.
well...NO Xplode isnt really that big of an NO activator...its more of a pre-workout stimulant...but it basically has a stimulant...some Arginine (AEE) and a little bit of creatine ethyl Ester (CEE) go to bodybuilding.com and read up on muscle builders i would suggest for you first before you start ordering stuff to see whats right for you
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yeh its mainly like an expensive energy drink with only some of those good things. the mass pump stack would be a lot better for the NO effect, along with some good creatine and the absorbtion matter. yeh go to bodybuilding.com and reasearch stuff like: creatine, arginine, protein, and any other supplemental info u need, then start figuring out what you want. bodybuilding.com is very useful for that
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Alright I did some reading, there is some good stuff on there.

An expensive energy drink is not exactly the idea I had in mind, so I think I will go with that mass pump stack. Would you recommend adding anything to it to round it out?
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um well lets see....u got that, then idk if u got some or not but ull want some good ol fashioned whey protein to help add some good protein in ur diet, and some ppl like buying separate BCAAs and glutamine for muscle recovery, but u dont really need that if u eat alot and good. test. is for older pple like in their 20's, so cant really go 4 that. multivitamins are great help as well

im getting that mass pump stack and some whey protein, along with my usual multi. thatl do for now
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I can't believe I'm old now just because I'm in my twenties. Like I said my diet has been pretty much prefect for near four months so yes I have protein, multivitamins, glutamine, etc. I just meant is there anything anyone else would recommend to boost the results of that mass pump stack. Or maybe something someone thinks might add an extra something, ie: an extra dose of caffeine, etc.

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lol sry didnt mean to say YOU were old, just that after 20 is around age to use for test., and older ppl than that mite need it. Um yeh u can use caffeine pills or taurine for nergy pre workout, i was actually thinkin bout that 2.
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