BodybuildingForYou - Bodybuilding Forums  

Go Back   BodybuildingForYou - Bodybuilding Forums > Bodybuilding Supplements, Fat Burners, and Weight Loss Supplement Discussions > Bodybuilding Supplements Central

View Poll Results:
0 0%
Voters: 0. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #261 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2006, 06:32 PM
T-rav's Avatar
T-rav T-rav is offline
BB4U Light Weight
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: IL
Posts: 102
T-rav is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to T-rav Send a message via MSN to T-rav
Default before or after, or both

I thought you take creatine before you work out to give you the energy, but on here it says to take it after your work out. I read in a muscle fitness magazine that you should take it before and after. I was just wondering...Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #262 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2006, 06:41 PM
Cammo's Avatar
Cammo Cammo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,328
Cammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud ofCammo has much to be proud of
Default

I take mine before & after but I use Kre-Alk.
Reply With Quote
  #263 (permalink)  
Old 12-10-2006, 06:00 PM
Megadeth Megadeth is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13
Megadeth is on a distinguished road
Default

how much is a scoop of creatine? Say I wanted to take 20grams at once after my work out, how do I measure that?
Reply With Quote
  #264 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 12:42 AM
hmoti69 hmoti69 is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 37
hmoti69 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default All about creatine

Creatine is one of very few performance enhancers that is backed by scientific research published in peer reviewed journals... lots of research! It is also the most popular sports supplement in the world, with sales exceeding $400 million (according to a recent report by the American College of Sports Medicine).

The primary benefits are strength and anaerobic power-related. Creatine is not beneficial for increasing endurance. Creatine is NOT a fat loss supplement, although it may help maintain strength and lean body mass during fat loss programs when loss of lean mass is an issue.

After using creatine, you often notice an increase in your strength, or more repetitions in a low to medium rep set with the same weight

Creatine is a safe supplement. The claims about creatine causing health problems and severe side effects have been laid to rest by numerous peer reviewed studies.
(If you have any pre-existing health issues, naturally you should check with your doctor before making any changes to your diet or starting on any supplements such as creatine).

Side effects are minor and few and the only ones that have been verified through research are occasional complaints such as GI distress and a gain in bodyweight (and the latter is usually a good thing, because it's lean tissue).

I'd recommend sticking with creatine monohydrate powder form, as that is the form most often researched and proven effective. Capsules are fine but not as cost effective.

Creatine can be mixed into a protein shake, or put in water/liquid, but then you should drink it immediately.

Liquid creatine is a scam; creatine is untstable if left in liquid for any prolonged period of time and that's why you dont see creatine drinks in the gym cooler (except for a few unscrupulous companies who claim they have stabilized it)

Creatine and sugar (dextrose/grape juice) has been shown to increase uptake of creatine due to the insulin spike. This is worth trying on weight gain/muscle gain programs, although it may not be wise on fat loss programs to add extra refined sugar (even in post workout feeding), because of the extra calories.

Creatine may be taken with meals or on an empty stomach, although if you are one of the few people who experience any GI distress, its better to take it with a meal. Creatine may be taken throughout the day and many people recommend making one of those servings be taken during your post workout period.

There is some debate about whether a "loading phase"
is necessary, but based on the research, most experts still recommend the loading phase simply because loading saturates your tissues sooner. Creatine will work without loading, but it will take longer for you to start reaping the benefits.

Here is the recommended dosage:
4-5 tsp (20-25 g)/ day for 6 days for loading,
1-2 tsp (5-10 g per day thereafter for maintenance)

Experts also argue about whether you should "cycle" creatine (go on and off it). The research is mixed on this subject, but common sense dicatates that the body habituates to anything and it may increase results to use it in a cyclical fashion. For example;
12 weeks on, then go off for a month before going back on.

The vast majority of users report noticeable gains in strength and often subsequent increaes in lean body mass and body weight after using creatine, especially the first time. That was my experience -- a very noticeable strength gain with a minor lean weight gain-- but I never got quite the same resutls again as I did the first time.

All things considered, creatine is not only an effective supplement, it is an outstanding anti-aging supplement because it can help maintain your strength and fight "sarcopenia", the muscle loss that naturally occurs with age ... unless you do something about it.
Reply With Quote
  #265 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 01:55 AM
hmoti69 hmoti69 is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 37
hmoti69 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

mega u dun wanna take that kind of dosage at 1ce. you want to take it in scoops of 5 g at a time. you dont you try splitting the 20 g over 4 doses. before and after and 2ice during the day
Reply With Quote
  #266 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 07:42 AM
Steve4king Steve4king is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Ana, CA
Posts: 42
Steve4king is on a distinguished road
Default

If it is straight creatine mono, 5g is the recommended dose, which is one heaping teaspoon. If it is kre-alk, 1-2g is the recommended dose.
__________________
Age: 24
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 165
BF: ~15% I think..
Reply With Quote
  #267 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 10:33 AM
Megadeth Megadeth is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13
Megadeth is on a distinguished road
Default

I took 1/2 teaspoon of mono before breakfast and lunch, and I gonna put 2 teaspoon into some oj, drink half before and half my work out. Sound good?
Reply With Quote
  #268 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 10:38 AM
Adrian7's Avatar
Adrian7 Adrian7 is offline
BB4U Middle Weight
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 462
Adrian7 is a name known to allAdrian7 is a name known to allAdrian7 is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to Adrian7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth View Post
I took 1/2 teaspoon of mono before breakfast and lunch, and I gonna put 2 teaspoon into some oj, drink half before and half my work out. Sound good?
No. Dont use OJ.
Reply With Quote
  #269 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 10:41 AM
Megadeth Megadeth is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13
Megadeth is on a distinguished road
Default

I mean...water?
Reply With Quote
  #270 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 01:51 PM
NiteHawk's Avatar
NiteHawk NiteHawk is offline
Danica's Crew Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: StuckeyVille
Posts: 5,497
NiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth View Post
I mean...water?
Just spoon a teaspoon in your mouth and chase it with a glass of grape juice and then drink a glass of water afterwards.
__________________
TEAM 7 MOTOROLA
Reply With Quote
  #271 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 01:53 PM
Mighty Mouse's Avatar
Mighty Mouse Mighty Mouse is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In my house
Posts: 713
Mighty Mouse is a glorious beacon of lightMighty Mouse is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to Mighty Mouse
Default

I loved apple juice for its spike. ;-)

that was with mono though, or any other powder really.

the new stuff really is irrelevant when you take it.
Reply With Quote
  #272 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 01:54 PM
NiteHawk's Avatar
NiteHawk NiteHawk is offline
Danica's Crew Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: StuckeyVille
Posts: 5,497
NiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud of
Default

We already have a creatine sticky. Moving this to the creatine sticky.
__________________
TEAM 7 MOTOROLA
Reply With Quote
  #273 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Mighty Mouse's Avatar
Mighty Mouse Mighty Mouse is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In my house
Posts: 713
Mighty Mouse is a glorious beacon of lightMighty Mouse is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to Mighty Mouse
Default

Creatine? What's that? Is that a supplement? I've never heard of it.
Reply With Quote
  #274 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Dman916 Dman916 is offline
BB4U Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3
Dman916 is on a distinguished road
Default whats CEE?

What's CEE?
Reply With Quote
  #275 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2006, 04:09 PM
NiteHawk's Avatar
NiteHawk NiteHawk is offline
Danica's Crew Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: StuckeyVille
Posts: 5,497
NiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dman916 View Post
What's CEE?
Creatine Ethyl Ester.
__________________
TEAM 7 MOTOROLA
Reply With Quote
  #276 (permalink)  
Old 12-17-2006, 08:01 AM
adrenaline's Avatar
adrenaline adrenaline is offline
BB4U Middle Weight
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 264
adrenaline is a glorious beacon of lightadrenaline is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via MSN to adrenaline
Default

asum post..learnt heaps from it
__________________
--«[αפяєиαιιпє™]»--
Reply With Quote
  #277 (permalink)  
Old 02-19-2007, 08:52 AM
Rickster's Avatar
Rickster Rickster is offline
BB4U Middle Weight
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 443
Rickster is a name known to allRickster is a name known to allRickster is a name known to all
Default

I plan on doing 10g of mono for 7 days then after that it would just be 5 grams maintence is that fine?
Reply With Quote
  #278 (permalink)  
Old 02-19-2007, 12:58 PM
NiteHawk's Avatar
NiteHawk NiteHawk is offline
Danica's Crew Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: StuckeyVille
Posts: 5,497
NiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickster View Post
I plan on doing 10g of mono for 7 days then after that it would just be 5 grams maintence is that fine?
Yes, that is fine.
__________________
TEAM 7 MOTOROLA
Reply With Quote
  #279 (permalink)  
Old 02-19-2007, 05:51 PM
dannyboy9 dannyboy9 is offline
BB4U Super Heavyweight
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,350
dannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to beholddannyboy9 is a splendid one to behold
Default

You put all of this information together based on your own knowledge and research you did yourself Nite?
__________________
"Supplements are supplements to your training, nutrition & most of all attitude." -Mehdi

Last edited by dannyboy9; 02-19-2007 at 05:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #280 (permalink)  
Old 02-19-2007, 10:10 PM
NiteHawk's Avatar
NiteHawk NiteHawk is offline
Danica's Crew Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: StuckeyVille
Posts: 5,497
NiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud ofNiteHawk has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy9 View Post
You put all of this information together based on your own knowledge and research you did yourself Nite?
As I stated early in the post, its information I gathered and put together. The first part of the post was from a little supplement book I used to have, I may still have it lying around, Im not sure.

Other information was gathered from doing research on-line at various sites. I put this information up because there were a lot of questions on creatine and we needed a place for answers, experience, feedback, and other information.

However, the part of CEE and monohydrate usage, especially the grape juice method was my own experience and was my own words. I even made the comment that I was using Cell-Tech at the time and I was. I even mentioned to Poobah shortly after the post that I recommended it.

I know what you are getting at. I saw your post at Iron Arena and the link you had to the boxing forum. That looks like a cut and paste from this post. They even included how I use monohydrate with grape juice and where I stated I was using Cell-Tech at this time. I thought that was kind of funny and flattering actually.

So, unless the guy was using the exact same books and sites I was and did the grape juice method and was using Cell-Tech at that time, then we both had a coincedence of a post but you and I know that is highly unlikely.
I dont care if someone cuts and pastes any of this material. There is no money being made on any of it.

Also, I put this post in back on October of 2005, that post in that link was February of 2006.

I hope this answers your question and clears it up.
__________________
TEAM 7 MOTOROLA

Last edited by NiteHawk; 02-19-2007 at 10:19 PM.
Reply With Quote