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okay , it has been a long time i wasnt here , i stopped the gym since a month and a half , my studies are taking all my time but the good news is that my hand healed in 99% percentage , i m gonna go back to the gym in 2 weeks ,frankly i m so depressed and i want really to see some gains when i go back , i m thinking of a heavy plan and wanna share it with you :
am gonna take : animal stak 2 + animal m stak (2 pills instead of the recommemded 1) i will be supplementing with a weight gainer that contain complex carbs (optimum s serious mass ) ......i will design a diet that contain : 150g of proteins and 300g carbs (other than those from serious mass) .....................this is gonna cost me a lot ... my coach said that the results will be amazing ........what do u all think ....? am looking forward for your feedbacks
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animal stak 2 + animal m stak (2 pills instead of the recommemded 1)
Why take more animal stack then recommended? Makes no sense.... weight gainer that contain complex carbs (optimum s serious mass ) ON Serious Mass is good for serious FAT when taken as directed. The complex carbs is maltodextrin!! I hate weight gainers... They're good for one thing and that might be a little bit first thing in the morning, and a little pre and post workout. Little being one 70cc scoop, no more than 2 . my coach said that the results will be amazing most coaches dont know sh*t
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10-09-2006, 11:24 PM
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there is a lot of dislike over weight gainers also. i would have to agree. and if it is good quality, then ur paying a lot for it. could get away with buying a better and cheaper 90%min protein powder and add oats and banana to it. although animal stak 2 and animal m stak r different products, they are trying to achieve some of the same goals. i personally wouldnt stack them. also, do not take more then the recommended dosage UNLESS U KNOW WHAT UR DOING. in otherwords, unless u've had lots of experience behind u, and have done lots of research into these products, had a look at ppls journals and there reactions to certain dosages, then i would not increase it beyond the recommended. what is ur training routine? what sport r u playing? and most importantly, post a diet. (also, age etc is also good since i'm assuming ur to young for tribulus type stuff).
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10-09-2006, 11:25 PM
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 also, i would have to say that 90% of coaches dont know sh!t. me being in that 10% that know something  . lol
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 p.s. thats some funny sh*t that we both said pretty much the same thing...hahaha
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10-09-2006, 11:33 PM
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Spend the money on food.
You are new to this, all you need is a good routine, plenty of sleep, someone to kick you in your ass when you pussyfoot your way through workouts, and a ****ton of food.
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haha, thanks .we prob said almost the exact same thing because we're both around here to much? lol
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Animal stak 2 + Animal m stak is not that great combo i must say.Although they are different but not that different.Most of the ingredients in them are identical like DHT blockers,Liver detoxifying complex and to some extent Growth hormone secretagogues.Out of these 2 M stack is more effective. A much more effective combo would be Animal M-Stack + Animal Pump.Animal pump is a great fusion of effective ingredients including CEE and NO.Are you taking any multi?If not then you might consider taking Animal pak.Its a great multi but a bit expensive. Drop the weight gainer and buy a quality protein blend like ON 100% whey protein or even better ON Pro complex.So if money is not a issue then this will be a great stack... (1)Animal M-Stack (2)Animal Pump (3)Animal Pak (4)ON Pro complex (5)100% Egg protein or 100% Casein Protein(As pre bed shake) This stack along with a sound diet and training routine is bound to produce results.
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bump on it all although i'm just 19, i really do want to try some tribulus but at the 4g dosages that r apparently alright. although i know its not going to be very effective. although tempting none-the-less , lol.yes, thats what i saw with those 2 products being pretty much the same. although they vary sligtly, they have the same goals such as DHT blockers and liver detox etc. M-stak and pump i think would b good. if money wasn't an issue i'd give it a cycle, but yes, some of us r more concerned with bang-for-buck, haha.
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(1)Animal M-Stack
(2)Animal Pump (3)Animal Pak (4)ON Pro complex (5)100% Egg protein or 100% Casein Protein(As pre bed shake) Its a expensive stack no doubt about it.Still it'll cost just $133.25 online including shipping.So not that expensive. Last edited by meriaiza; 10-10-2006 at 05:59 AM.
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They come in a container of 50 and are reasonably priced - each cap contains 10g of Tribulus terrestris - if this sh!t don't work I'm never buying another Trib product again. 10mg of zinc too - pretty good "before bed" supp. Last edited by Cammo; 10-10-2006 at 03:00 AM.
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wow, all these weird and uberful supplements for someone still trying to find their feet in the bodybuilding game.
i'm still just using whey with the addition of waxy maize ( for postworkout shake) and seeing good results. save your money, spend it on food like caferacer mentioned i should really get into the supps game, too many people with more money than sense, no offence but you need to get your priorities straightened out.
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 Edit:Man this stuf is expensive and i'm not too sure it'll work either.Are you saying its better then M-Stack? Last edited by meriaiza; 10-10-2006 at 06:27 AM.
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