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Old 08-22-2006, 03:37 AM
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Ok, so there have been quite a few questions about fish oil lately, and I have had nothing to do so I've decided to do all the research for you guys. This is a comilation of information from articles, newsletters, and books I have found. You may have seen some of this posted before by myself, but I think its best to consolidate the information. Enjoy!



This is from Dr. Chris Mohr, PhD about fish oil pills:

"They kick ass---general health, 2-4 g/day. Elevated TG I would go higher, increasing in a stepwise manner, up to 8g or so (not a blanket statement, but individualized). Always speak with MD first since it does decrease clotting time...contraindicated if on blood thinning medications.

Preliminary research with weight loss shows it's promising---2-3 studies to my knowledge.

I do believe higher quality fish oils are important. Fish oil shouldn't give you fishy burps or taste fishy at all. Two favorites are Nordic Naturals and Carlson. Fish oils are screened very well for mercury and other contaminants, particularly ones like NN and Carlson. "

From Dr. John Berardi, PhD
"Fish oil, high in EPA and DHA, should be a staple of
everyone’s diet. We recommend the concentrated kind,
standardized for between 30% and 60% combined EPA
and DHA..."

Ok so now, we've come to the conclusion that Fish Oil Omega 3 is the most important for health concerns.

We've also learned that you should only get high quality fish oils.

EPA and DHA should make up about 30-60% of the serving.

For general health, from what I've seen of the high quality pills, you need only take 1 serving of the provided pill.

However, there are major health benefits of taking in more.

Again, this is from Dr. John Berardi, PhD
"Recently, studies have also shown that taking a few
grams of EPA and DHA per day can speed up
metabolic rate by about 400 kcal per day. Imagine that,
pop 2-3 fish oil capsules with each meal and you can
afford to eat an additional meal each and every day.
Talk about exciting news.

So if you’re interested in improving your health and
speeding up your metabolism, swim upstream with
the salmon. Ten grams of total fish oil – or about three
grams of combined EPA and DHA – per day can boost
metabolism while boosting your health substantially."

Ok so from this, you can see that 1 serving of fish oil pills will not get you there. Its not as important for the total fish oil count, but more important for the 3g of EPA and DHA.

The following links I will provide takes you to pills that provide about 1g of combined EPA and DHA per serving. Taking 1 serving prior to each of three main meals should net you the effects of a boosted metabolism plus all the health benefits.

http://www.naturalgreens.com/ProdDetail.asp?ProdID=290

heres a site with a good one. 40 bucks for a whole months supply if you take 3 servings a day.


http://www.naturalgreens.com/ProdDetail.asp/ProdID/217
Another good one. Take six a day to get the 3g of DHA/EPA for a boosted metabolism. 30 bucks for a months supply here. This is the one I'd purchase if I were to purchase pill versions

http://vitaminlady.com/Carlson_Labs/Liquid_Omega_3.asp
This is Carlson's liquid version. 25 bucks for 500mL. 1 serving is 5mL(1 tsp) and you need to take only three servings a day. Thats a good deal.

http://www.vitaminlady.com/Carlson_L...ega_3_oils.asp
Carlson pill version. 46 bucks for 41 day supply (about 40 bucks for 30). Take 6 pills a day(2 at each of three meals).

The liquid versions are a bit cheaper. only problem is you have to refrigerate them.... but u could take them in a protein shake or just from a spoon or in a salad dressing?

When looking for your own pills make sure of the following:

1. ITS GOOD QUALITY! No fishy smell or taste, etc.
2. Make sure the DHA/EPA level add up to about 1,000mg(1g) per serving.
3. Buy liquid versions if you want to save money

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:52 AM
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The only problem I see with those fish oils is they aren't salmon fish oil. Let me know what you think of these...

http://www.vitacost.com/CarlsonNorwegianSalmonOil
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The only problem I see with those fish oils is they aren't salmon fish oil. Let me know what you think of these...

http://www.vitacost.com/CarlsonNorwegianSalmonOil
It dont neccesarily believe Salmon fish oil is better than the sardine oil or worse for that matter. Whats most important is its good quality and you are getting the 3g of DHA/EPA a day.

Also, to get the 3g of DHA/EPA from those pills you'd have to take 10 pills a day. The genetic make up of Omega 3 fatty acides as well as DHA/EPA I would assume(and only makes sense) would be the same in any fish that contains it. Its probably just cheaper b/c its easier to mass produce the oil from Salmon than

After some more research, it also seems Salmon has a little bit more cholestoral per serving (20mg v 15mg) and more calories per g of DHA/EPA too.

I'll continue researching and post any new info I can find.

I woudl go with something like this just for convience. Thats a good site you found

http://www.vitacost.com/CarlsonSuperOmega3FishOils

6 pills to get 3g of DHA/EPA and is Carlson and less calories 54 vs 90 of the salmon for the 3g of DHA/EPA. The other fish just seem to have a higher concentration of DHA/EPA compared to salmon. Its made from Deep water fish which is from what I found the only big concern.

But either way, it would be fine IMO.

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Also, to get the 3g of DHA/EPA from those pills you'd have to take 10 pills a day.
Hmph, I thought it would have taken 6 pills a day because you would be getting 350 epa and 260 dha with 750 mg omega 3 with every 2 pills. Is that not enough? I could be wrong because the whole ratio thing in the original post screwed me up. How many grams total of epa, dha and omega 3 are we looking for per serving if we were to take 3 servings a day? That would make it easier for me, lol.
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Hmph, I thought it would have taken 6 pills a day because you would be getting 350 epa and 260 dha with 750 mg omega 3 with every 2 pills. Is that not enough? I could be wrong because the whole ratio thing in the original post screwed me up. How many grams total of epa, dha and omega 3 are we looking for per serving if we were to take 3 servings a day? That would make it easier for me, lol.
a total of 3g DHA/EPA Combined=3,000mg. omega 3, you get enough in just 1 serving. Its the DHA/EPA you need to be worried about

1 serving of the salmon pills (2 pills) has 610mg x 5 servings(10pills) he 3,050 mg 0r 3g. Yeah I think its confusing too. Took me all day to figure it all out haha.

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a total of 3g DHA/EPA Combined=3,000mg. omega 3, you get enough in just 1 serving. Its the DHA/EPA you need to be worried about

1 serving of the salmon pills (2 pills) has 610mg x 5 servings(10pills) he 3,050 mg 0r 3g. Yeah I think its confusing too. Took me all day to figure it all out haha.
alrighty, I suck at math so I'll take your word for it. I believe this is the best value I can find. Let me know if you find a better value. If not I'll be ordering tommorrow.

http://www.vitacost.com/CarlsonSuperOmega3FishOils
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alrighty, I suck at math so I'll take your word for it. I believe this is the best value I can find. Let me know if you find a better value. If not I'll be ordering tommorrow.

http://www.vitacost.com/CarlsonSuperOmega3FishOils

Looks like the best value I could find. You are really good at finding cheap stuff haha. From what that Doctor said, Carlson is one of his favorite brands. Looks like one bottle will last you like 22 days? for 14 bucks nice! Let me know how it works out. I'm going ot get some when I get home if you think its worth it

Yeah, if you want to know the value of somethin just ask me. i'm an accountant. Its what I do for a living lol "Cost benefit analysis"
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Looks like the best value I could find. You are really good at finding cheap stuff haha. From what that Doctor said, Carlson is one of his favorite brands. Looks like one bottle will last you like 22 days? for 14 bucks nice! Let me know how it works out. I'm going ot get some when I get home if you think its worth it

Yeah, if you want to know the value of somethin just ask me. i'm an accountant. Its what I do for a living lol "Cost benefit analysis"
Sweet, ya we'll definatly have to keep swapping ideas and finding great values. But ya, 22 day supply for 14 bucks. I'll buy 2 at a time so I don't have to order as often. Thanks for the great info and all the research you put into this.
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Sweet, ya we'll definatly have to keep swapping ideas and finding great values. But ya, 22 day supply for 14 bucks. I'll buy 2 at a time so I don't have to order as often. Thanks for the great info and all the research you put into this.
No problem. I still have two more weeks of no work to do, so if theres anything else you want me to look into, dont hesitate to ask
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Just made my purchase. Shipping was cheap too, only $4.99 for a total of $32.97 for a 44 day supply.
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I'm going to Bump this since to be honest I didnt read that other post b/c I've already done enough research on Fish Oil.

Tons of links to purchase different kinds that have been recommended by high level sports and fitness nutritionists.
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I'm going to Bump this since to be honest I didnt read that other post b/c I've already done enough research on Fish Oil.

Tons of links to purchase different kinds that have been recommended by high level sports and fitness nutritionists.
So by your post logic, I would need to take 6 pills a day if my Omega 3 pills contain 300 EPA and 200 DHA?
Do I pass the exam?
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So by your post logic, I would need to take 6 pills a day if my Omega 3 pills contain 300 EPA and 200 DHA?
Do I pass the exam?
You sir have an IQ high in the triple digits

I just started this week being that I got home recently from Iraq and was unable to get such fine quality supplements there. I'm going to keep everyone posted on if the weight loss thing seems to be true or not as well as the other benefits listed.
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Damn, that vitacost.com has excellent pricing for a ton of stuff. Thanks for posting that Merk.
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Damn, that vitacost.com has excellent pricing for a ton of stuff. Thanks for posting that Merk.
Yeah they got some good price, I wonder how much would be the shipping cost to Canada. Shouldn’t be too bad...

This marketing line is funny:
New product :Experience all the benefits of red wine, without the alcohol.
Now my excuse to drink wine is ruined. Got to think of an other excuses to tell myself!
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Damn, that vitacost.com has excellent pricing for a ton of stuff. Thanks for posting that Merk.
no prob. I did take the recommend dosage for fat loss for a couple months and can't say I saw results. It may be because I'm already pretty lean but with that being said I've always believed in supplementing with fish oil, its benefits are endless.
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