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05-17-2006, 10:26 PM
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Kre-alkalyn ?
Well after mono cee and cellmass have left me with nothing but a lighter wallet...i'm guessing i'm as non-responder as they come...i am giving my last shot (hopefully) to kre-alkalyn because of the reviews i have heard of it as far as absorbtion goes
so heres my question...i've been taking cellmass since the 1st of may--18 days now--without any gains beyond the steady ones i have already been making so basically, theres been no/very little change in my strength or size. This has lead me to conclude that i'm probably either absorbing very little creatine, or none at all...if this is the case, should i wait 4 weeks before taking the kre-alkalyn? (my diet is very good, this is a supplement question...everything else is where it needs to be as far as diet and training)
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05-17-2006, 10:33 PM
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I've taken Kre-Al. and thought it was great - I noticed huge energy boosts, especially for cardio work (I felt like I could just keep on going & going).
I was told by the woman that sold it to me that I didn't have to cycle or load on it so I didn't and noticed the results I've mentioned.
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05-18-2006, 12:37 PM
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Kre alakyn is by far the best way to go. Probably still need to cycle it 8 on/4 off....some products use glycocymine which will stimulate there body natural production of creatine. I guess it is not as necessary, but still is prob a good idea.
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05-18-2006, 04:33 PM
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I'm currently taking Sci Fit Kre Alkalyn 1500. I take 2 caps on non-training days in the morning before breakfast and on training days I take 2 caps right before I start my pre-workout meal and then another 2 caps PWO. I would highly recommend it. It's easy to take (at least for me it is because I rather take pills than powder for certain things) and I've noticed some excellent gains in the gym , not to mention my recovery is great!
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05-18-2006, 07:37 PM
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How do you know? lol I do agree that the supplements aren't what need to be changed, I'm sure it's something else like his diet but working out is very rarely the case.
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05-18-2006, 08:52 PM
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3 workouts a week for less than an hour each, doing the 3/set thing, isn't going to build very fast if at all. And sups don't build muscle, they just assist in the workout and recovery. Thats just my opinion, not gonna get into a undertraining/overtraining debate here...just trying to help...
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05-18-2006, 10:12 PM
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3 workouts a week is MORE than enough and an hour in the gym is enough time. lol what makes you think it's not? It's funny that you would say something like that because as I recall from reading a journal of yours which you only posted twice in, you said you had been working out 3x a week and you saw great results!!! Wow, aren't we a walking contradiction. Let me guess...you're one of those people that thinks spending 2 hours in the gym and working out 5 days a week for 17 sets per muscle is what gets results right? I'm not even going bother....lol amazing. If you're just trying to help, listen to what you're saying before you type it. You don't even make sense.  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hey Hathy, Would you care to post your routine and your diet for us? I'm sure we could help you out alot better if you did that for us. Maybe your diet is a little off. I hope you're keeping the intensity up in the gym too. Another possibility could be that you're overtraining but I don't want to throw up any more possibilities until you give us some solid info.
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05-18-2006, 10:29 PM
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You're right on this one Dannyboy!
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05-19-2006, 05:23 AM
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Ok, you guys are right...since his diet and workout are very good, it MUST be the supplements not working...
Thanks for dogging me Danny, BTW, I've put on 13 lbs since March 1st, guess I'M the one doing something wrong... Last edited by stunmai; 05-19-2006 at 05:31 AM.
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did i mention i went from 5'11" 140 to....159 since january? i think i've been doing something right
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05-19-2006, 08:14 AM
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Hey Hathy,
Would you care to post your routine and your diet for us? I'm sure we could help you out alot better if you did that for us. Maybe your diet is a little off. I hope you're keeping the intensity up in the gym too. Another possibility could be that you're overtraining but I don't want to throw up any more possibilities until you give us some solid info.[/quote] Diet: first meal: wheat toast w/ PB and half serving of cytogainer with milk (700-800 calories depending on how much PB and what kind of milk is in my fridge...skim vs. whole...try to only use skim) sometimes an apple 2nd meal: ooh man it depends...my life is not very structured right now so sometimes i;m working all day sometimes all night so this isnt exactly what i eat evryday i try to work around it but sometimes a banana and bread sometimes a turkey sandwich but always something with carbs/protein...except the banana  3rd:...usually same as the second 4th:dinner...well i'm irish so that means dinner is almost always meat and taters...pasta and meatballs is another favorite meal 5: sometimes i eat a 5th meal depending on what i'm doing..its generally a pretty small one...not that many cals meal 6: right before i brush my teeth to go to bed: muscle milk w/ milk:500-600 calories and plenty of casein protein (a side note on my diet: i would not eat for a day rather than eat at mcdonalds/BK/wendys etc.) Training Monday: Legs (squats...2 warm up..3 heavy..2 light Leg extensions(superset)leg curls calf raises Wed: Push: bench  allllllllmost got 225 last wed)db bench db incline BB standing shoulder press shoulder flies tricep dips closegrip(superset)skullcrusher Fri: Pull: deadlift(i want to switch this with powerclean or should i do both..input would be great please haha) pull-downs (i dont have a pull-up bar anymore )seated rows t-bar rows BB curls or preacher curls
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05-19-2006, 08:17 AM
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btw, i appreciated everyone's input on kre-alkalyn while it lasted hahaha
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05-19-2006, 11:11 PM
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put on 13 lbs since March 1st.....Oh yeah? I put on 7 lbs. since May 1st and I had put on another 8 lbs. in 3 weeks around the beginning of March and I even started a thread because I was so ecstatic about it to whoever cares =) What's your point? Just cause you gain weight doesn't mean you know what you're talking about? I'm not one to act like I know everything but bro....seriously. Just take a break, go read some books or something and we'll talk when you know what you're talking about. I'm not a rude guy but don't be cocky AND give bad advice. It makes you look even worse when people realize what you're saying and it's wrong. At least if you were humble about it and apologized or something of that sort you would be able to slide and get away with it nicely.  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quote:
Training Monday: Legs (squats...2 warm up..3 heavy..2 light Leg extensions(superset)leg curls calf raises Wed: Push: bench allllllllmost got 225 last wed)db bench db incline BB standing shoulder press shoulder flies tricep dips closegrip(superset)skullcrusher [/quote] Could it be a possibility that you're overtraining? Maybe you're doing too many sets of each exercise?
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i dunno about overtraining...i really toned it down a bit because i was afraid that i might have been, plus i am tryin to do all the push muscles in one day pull on another legs on another so i do everything in 3 days rather than doing more sets per bodypart over 5
i would never not eat for a day either...i was just saying that i'd NEVER eat at mcdonalds
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I have never used Kre-Alkalyn. But doesn't Kre-A just stop the creatine from converting into creatinine?
So Kre-Alkalyn is just a more efficent Monohydrate... Since monohydrate is not easly absorbed you would still have the same problem but would be able to take Kre-A in smaller doses to get the same results as mono. Since you said all other creatine hasn't worked for you. I guess its definitly worth a try. Just remember your not going to see amazing gains with creatine but im sure you already know that.
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Another thing is you can enable full and stable uptake of pure creatine with zero toxic conversion. You got it on the money jimmytorso.
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