Creatine...Before or After workout?

[King of Beasts]

I know that in the NiteHawk post he said to take it after the workout, but I was just wondering why. I don't have the knowledge you guys do, and I was j/w. It didn't really make sense to me because I thought that the creatine allowed your muscles to do more work by changing ADP back to ATP. It just didn't make sense to me because you don't need that to happen after your workout, but during it. So I thought you would want to have a "filled up stock of creatine" before the workout. Also I wanted to make sure we should take the creatine even on non-workout days. It would make sense to me.
Thanks for any information.

King of Beasts

PS. I'm just trying to understand, I'm not trying to say anybody is wrong, sorry if I came across that way.

PPS. What are some good, quality products that contain CEE?

[mywetnightmares]

Take creatine mono post workout and all other creatines pre-workout.

When it all boils down to the simplest explanation it's cuz creatine mono is pretty insoluble in water and hard for your body to absorb. In order to counter this and make it effective it needs to be consumed to a bunch of simple carbs to cause an insulin spike, this insulin spike will cause your body to store the creatine in your muscles more efficiently that without it. Having a bunch of insulin flowing through your system during your workout will lower blood sugar and sap energy levels. Basically you're packing the creatine in for your next workout.

Other creatines like CEE and creatine malate are much more soluble and much more efficient in terms of how much your body needs to see an effect. Thus these creatines should be taken preworkout because they will affect creatine stores almost immediately(I think, but could be wrong). I know that I can feel a difference a lot sooner when taking CEE and Creatine malate pre-workout than when I take mono post-workout and the effects of the other two are more pronounced.

[tryin2gain]

Take mono post workout because many people have post workout shakes that contain simple carbohydrates to raise your insulin levels. Raised insulin levels allow for better absorption. So if you take it post workout like you should, make sure you have a proper PWO shake to raise your insulin, otherwise it makes no difference when you take it.

Yeah, you need the creatine during your workout, not after. But taking it after replenishes your creatine stores, and over time builds up your body's supply. It all works out in the end.

[dannyboy9]

Originally Posted by King of Beasts

PPS. What are some good, quality products that contain CEE?

Cellmass is a very popular CEE product. Real solid stuff

[TRAZ]

I was always told to take it post workout. I was assuming that it was because you didn't want to spike your insulin pre-workout because you don't want to have a "sugar crash" in the middle of your routine.

[mywetnightmares]

You can take it pre-workout as long as you don't take it with a bunch of sugar, which is why you can take CEE and creatine malate pre-workout. They don't need an insulin spike to have good absorption.

[dannyboy9]

Originally Posted by TRAZ

I was always told to take it post workout. I was assuming that it was because you didn't want to spike your insulin pre-workout because you don't want to have a "sugar crash" in the middle of your routine.

Yeah, simple sugars (which is what is used to produce and insulin spike) is a bad high to be on because it doesn't last very long and when it's done, the down effect or the "sugar crash" like TRAZ mentioned isn't fun nor is it something you want when you're pushing weights.

Originally Posted by mywetnightmares

You can take it pre-workout as long as you don't take it with a bunch of sugar, which is why you can take CEE and creatine malate pre-workout. They don't need an insulin spike to have good absorption.

^ BUMP.

Stick w/ CEE and CM if you're want to take something before your workout. I've found that taken creatine (Kre-Alkalyn in my case) increases my endurance and helps me push out those extra reps. I've been moving up in weight pretty nicely but that's the case w/ virtually any type of creatine except mono

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

You can take it before and after, this is what I have always done.

And bump about the post workout with some simple carbs as it is
the fastest way for it to be absorbed!!!!! It acts as a fast delivery system and transports the creatine right into the muscles

I use mono and mix it in with some dextrose for my post workout.

[hmmm]

You can take it pre and post workout. You can also take it in the morning because insulin sensitivety will be high. So is essential if you workout after you wake up because its similar post workout.

[GetNPumped]

Yea cellmass is awesome. i love it for 3 months. I think i am goin to try somethin new though just becasue, and if i don't like whatever at least i know i can go back to cellmass.

[meera]

USN Labs CEE 30 minutes pre-workout. I admire this product greatly for off cycle use.

[phat chick]

I've been advised from my new diet-coach to do this little system and things (combined with an excellent diet and training program) is working magic for me.

I take a mix of creatine, glutamine and BCAA's 4x a day:

-first thing in the morning (i'm in pre-contest mode, so i take this and then do cardio every morning on an otherwise empty stomach),
-pre workout out
-post work out
-before last meal

Each serving is done on an empty stomach. Then i eat 15 min later, except for the one pre-workout (i just take it then go workout). After training i take it, wait 15 min, then have my post workout shake of whey, dextrose and maltodextrin.

The creatine i use is JUST creatine....no other goodies in there.