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Old 05-13-2006, 06:40 PM
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Dear Fellow Bodybuilders,
I purchased a bottle of Creatine Monohydrate a while ago. I noticed immediate results such as a being able to do more repitions and a natural drive to work out more. It didn't just happen to my bobybuilding workout but also to my kickboxing routine. I believe creatine is one of the most effective supplements out there, and I would like advice on what kind to take. I want to go beyond the creatine monohydrate.

My first idea was to take BSN's NO-EXPLODE, as I wanted to start taking N02 in addition to my creatine. I read Jim's article on the product and it sounded fairly decent. I really liked all the things that were added to it such as Arginine in order to help the release of the Nitric Oxide and Creatine. What scared me was how many people said that it didn't do anything for their workout and how many said that it had negative side effects.

Then I saw Purple-K on the internet. Purple-K, the "King of Creatine" said that it did not convert it's Creatine into Creatinine, a toxic waste that is made when creatine is mixed with a liquid. Supposedly you lose about %90 of your original Creatine, which means Kre-Alkalyn Creatine is ten times more potent then Creatine Monohydrate. This is great if all you need is 1-2 capsules twice a day (they're pretty small and are coated), and if you're not bloated or have an upset stomach after you take them. At around $30 I can get a bottle of 100 caps.

I've also heard about Micronized Creatine. I read the product information on AST's Micronized Creatine;

"Micronized Creatine has numerous advantages over regular creatine:

Faster Absorption - AST Micronized Creatine's smaller particle size means quicker digestion and faster utilization.

More Efficient - 20 times more total surface area for greater uptake into the bloodstream.

Greater Purity - Micronizing creatine produces a more pure creatine by increasing the total processing steps and purification procedures.

Mixes Easier and Better"

I'm not sure if "20 times more total surface area" really means that Micronized Creatine is twenty times more effective then regular creatine, but I can understand that it's small size would make it much easier to absorb. One problem with Micronized Creatine is that none of it is in a pill form, which is a benefit for me. However, it does sell for $27 for 1000 grams.

I've also seen the review for Muscletech's CellTech and Jim's home-made reciped for it. It made sense that combined with dextrose, Creatine would be more effective. The dextrose is rapidly absorbed by your muscles, which you can take advantage of if you combine creatine and glucose.

Then I had an idea to combine both Micronized Creatine with dextrose, thus using the idea of smaller creatine and insulin spikes to absorb even more creatine effectively. This may not be such a good idea, but I would like your opinions on the matter.

I also thought of consuming the Kre-Alkalyn capsules with some sweet liquid such as Apple Juice or even a Protein Shake would have a similar effect as Cell Tech, but with Kre-Alkalyn.

I don't know if using Micronized Creatine with dextrose, Kre-Alkalyn with dextrose, or just BSN's NO-EXPLODE would be the best choice for Creatine.

Thank You,

John Coffey

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you will get your best strength gains from kre-alakyn...period. If you want the pumps etc, no-xplode is a great workout tool, or if you prefer the sustained pump NO2 would be the product of choice. Personally I like the kre-alakyn + 3 or so grams of AEE in ONE product...best of both worlds

with the kre-alakyn there is no conversion to creatinine, and therefore no waste, so don't "waste" you $$ of other forms. no pun intended
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Thanks for the suggestion.Would a product like Ester Pump w/ Kre-Alkalyn by XS Supplements be what your talking about? I can see the benefits of Kre-Akalyn Creatine and AEE could on your workout. I don't know what Citrullane Malate does though. I wonder if I should just go with Xyience's NOX-CG3, which has Creatine, L-Glutamine, and Nitric Oxide all-in-one.

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Actually I use a product called M5, by cellucor. I picked it up at my local GNC, stuff is really pricey but my workouts have been awsome and I am growing. This is only my 2nd can that I have used and I am very pleased with my gains. It has pure Kre-Alakyn and AEE + Taurine EE, Glycocimine, Caffine, etc, etc. It is basically like 2 scoops of NO-Xplode + 1 scoop cellmass put together, so honestly it is cheaper in the long run

The citrulinne malate helps deliver via the aerobic pathway...and that is an obvious positive. If that Ester Pump has all that give it a worl. The NOXCG3 is good, but I have seem better out there. Your can bro. If I were you I would give a kre-alakyn + NO product a try. I am sure you would be pleased with what you get out of it.
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Yea i take NO-Xplode but am looking for something different soon. Not becasue the NO is bad but becaseu i just want to try something new. To be honest i read quit a few threads on NO and most people don't like it or say they had the poops, i Have no problems, no headaches, dizziness, anything. I get a nice rush and stay focused. Now they also say it is a beginner supp. but i think it is good i say 4 out of five but i haven
't taken anything else yet. The only thing is it seems your body likes to build a tolerance to it, so i take it for about 2 weeks skip a few workouts with it then do the same it seems to help keep a good impact. I am goin to look into the other stuff you guys just mentioned too. Thanks
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