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I'm going to try Tribulus/ZMA stack
School is almost out for the summer, so I want to beef up my workout, work on my diet, and rearrange my supplements.
Reading around the forums and such, I keep reading "if you're under 30, this won't do much." I'm 22 years old... I don't know if my body is releasing anywhere near as much testosterone as it could. I think this for a couple of reasons... 1.) I don't really need to shave more than once every couple of weeks... Even then, I'm only shaving my upper lip and front of my chin. 2.) Not much of a sex drive... I've had plenty of opportunities to get laid, but I would rather be doing something else with my time. E.g... I'll get a chick naked, make out with her for a while, then leave when I'm bored or because I've got some stuff I need to get done. 3.) Puberty didn't change much... Didn't get acne, voice didn't get much deeper, voice didn't crack... So anyways... I'm going to try out a stack and let you guys know how it goes. Not many side effects, so it couldn't hurt to try it. Any recomendations on brands? The search button says "zma" is too short to search for so I have no idea where to start with that. As for Tribulus, I've heard some people mention Tribex, but that it's over priced... Any suggestions would be great! Ohh... And sorry if I posted this in the wrong section. I figured this was a supplement and not a testosterone enhancer. Right? Just minerals and herbs =) Thanks! 
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05-09-2006, 06:22 PM
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You do not need a test booster at your age. Period. Legal test boosters only boost your test levels to natural peak, which you are already at, no dout about it. Total waste of money. So is the ZMA.
And if you by any chance are NOT at peak....at YOUR AGE, you need to see a doctor. Legal test boosters wont help you with the larger problem at hand. Bottom line, unless you are over 40 AND suffering from low test levels, test boosters wont help you any. All they will do is give you acne. And ZMA is a total waste at your age for what you want it to do. Get yourself to a doctor and dont take any advise from here or anywhere else untill you figure out whats going on.
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05-10-2006, 09:32 AM
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v has got an opinion, whoooo does he....anyway brother, if you want to try some type of trib, go for it. Tribex may be a little expensive, but that is because it is synsethized at a 40% protodicion level. Protodicion is the active component that helps the "boys" release more LH, thus increasing the test production in the body. With trib, YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET X 10.
Are you going to get huge, probably not, but I am 25 and I will say that trib based products have helped me gain some mass and yes I will continue to use them. V will probably say use SD, but for those of us who do not want to use PH, AAS there are other options out there.
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05-10-2006, 02:35 PM
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There is always alot of debate regarding this, whether to use after 30 yrs old or not, But if you feel that something just is not right, go to a doctor have you're test levels checked, it's painless and will find out the true answer, but if everything is normal then you have other issue's.
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05-10-2006, 03:52 PM
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Thanks for the comments/suggestions =)
Well, I never said my testosterone level were "low." I just said that my body could probably release more. No need to see a doctor. It's kind of a feeling I have, that my body is capable of releasing more. hrpiii, if ZMA helps me get a better nights sleep, then it is definitely worth it! Thanks. Taekwondo Guy, facial hair IS linked to testosterone. No doubt, plenty of information available on the internet regarding this. And, nope... not gay. Thanks for the comments. stb24, thanks a lot man... I was hoping for a response from someone who has tried one or both of these supplements. It sounds like it is working for you, and you're around the same age... So maybe it will work for me also. I'm going to look further into those brands you suggested. Thanks again! I don't understand why everyone assumes that because someone is under 30/40, their bodies release the "natural peak" of testosterone. And that is is somehow unnatural and I should see a doctor. If you've tried it, and it didn't work that's one thing, but if you haven't and then telling me it will not work doesn't carry much weight. I'm not trying to argue or anything. From what I understand... Your brain sends a signal telling your body "make testosterone" and sends another signals "stop, that's enough." Stop? No, keep going! Tribulus indirectly sends that signal saying "make more!" ZMA contains Zinc, Magnesium and B6. Foods like beef liver, and oysters are rich in those minerals. I personally don't eat a lot of red meat, and certainly not liver or oysters. (reason being is that red meat isn't as healthy as the other meats, and is an incredibly inefficient use of resources.) I take multi-vitamins regularly, but these minerals don't absorb well when taken with calcium for example. People who eat a lot of red meat (or liver) may not get anything out of ZMA (or creatine which I take for the same reason.) Lastly, there aren't many side effects for either of these supplements. I can deal with acne.
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Im glad you got something from trib based products, I really am. You're one of the lucky ones and more power to you. But the facts are that most people under 40 dont recieve anything from them, thats why I said what I said. Nothing more, nothing less. And why would I recommend SD to him? That is a powerful steroid and I dont recommend it lightly. And speaking of which, Ive never, ever recommended it. To ANYONE. So where you come off saying that I would do that is totaly beyond me. Please dont ever speak for me again. Daniel, advise is advise. You dotn have to take it. We that know and care speak from experience. Not just ours, but many others as well. Do what you want, though. Its your body.
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Why don't you just take som Melatonin? lol
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05-11-2006, 12:38 AM
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Thank you for your concern, but this stuff is pretty cheap. I don't want to sound like I don't appreciate everyones comments/suggestions. I do. It's just that everyone tells me something different so I have to take it all in, check sources, and hopefully make an informed descision. Hell, I remember when I was reading around about No-Xplode. Lots of people said don't get it and that it's a waste of money. I got it anyway and for me, it's definatly not a waste. It gets me in the gym, gives me energy to stay there longer, and I feel awesome when I walk out with friggen huge pumps. I haven't found something cheaper to replace it yet.
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seems like you've made up your mind already, no point in really trying to say any different.
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v come on man are you going to e-fight me or try to e-bully me around....and BTW I will say what I think, so DEAL WITH IT
 Is trib going to work better than anything hormonal, no. But for those of us that do not use hormonal products, it CAN be a good alternative that is all that I stated.
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05-14-2006, 04:07 AM
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Stuff like Tribulis does alot more then just boost Testosterone... For one, harder erections, and possibilities of lasting longer in the sack.... People are just saying no no no talking out of their ass like they know what they are talking about cuz someone said testosterone
http://bodybuildingforyou.com/pro-ho...tris-facts.htm
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05-14-2006, 11:32 AM
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I agree to an extent. And Im not saying you meant someone like me, but for everybody's information, I most certainly know what I am talking about when it comes to supplements. Ive written many articles that were posted here once on almost every supplement you can think of. I chose to take them down because most people here on this board do not want to take the time to learn anything for themselves. My answers and advise here on this thread were based on what he said he was looking for it to do for him.
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Dude Im am here to tell you that for me the ON Tribulus 625 is the way to go if your going to try Trib.
Tribex works, but is about $35 more per bottle. I switched to the 625 3 weeks ago and it makes a huge difference. Quite possibly I believe teh difference is the dosage. If you buy the Tribex then take 3 pills instead of 2.
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