Fat burners

[Fuse]

i found a list of fat burners supposedly ranked from best to crappiest and i was wondering about its validity, heres how it went:

lipovarin
Thermalean-RX™
Lipoxinol™
HotRox™
Anorex-SF™
Leptoprin-SF™
Leptopril™
Lipo 6™
Lean System 7™
Zantrex-3™
Hydroxucut™
TrimSpa™
Ripped Fuel

[Weecrack]

U can buy ephedra legally againin the usa, id take that over any of those

[Fuse]

ripped with ephedra islike... 50 bucks for 48 capsules? got any good cheaper alternatives?

[evoVIII]

vasopro ephedrine hcl 25mg

9.99 at 1fast for a bottle. pure ephedrine, add your own caffeine, green tea, whatever fat burning combo u want. Please do the research first, it's idiots who don't do the research and take short cuts that end up giving ephedrine a bad name.

[macro]

vasopro is not pure ephedrine.

you are in canada, you can easily get pure ephedrine cheap.

as far as that list its junk.



Thermorexin
EC
NYC
SYC (this covers a host of stacks based on the synephrine,yohimbine and caffeine platform)
clenbuterol (if thats up your alley)

[Fuse]

Thermorexin
EC
NYC
SYC (this covers a host of stacks based on the synephrine,yohimbine and caffeine platform)
clenbuterol (if thats up your alley)


are those ephedra based?

[evoVIII]

Originally Posted by macro

vasopro is not pure ephedrine.

you are in canada, you can easily get pure ephedrine cheap.

as far as that list its junk.



Thermorexin
EC
NYC
SYC (this covers a host of stacks based on the synephrine,yohimbine and caffeine platform)
clenbuterol (if thats up your alley)

Your right, not pure ephedrine. I guess I meant that other ingredients aside for *breathing relief*, it's one of the cheapest source of ephedrine. It also contains 200 mg guaifenesin for an expectorant and 25 mg ephedrine for brochodilator.

The ephedrine available in canada, as far as i can find come in 8mg tabs and cost more overall then getting it from the states. Personally I just find it easier to take 25mg tabs versus 3 8mg.

Not a big fan of synephrine if you can get ephedrine instead. Clen is something that requires more research before taking it, it's one substance that I think is definitely not for those if they have to ask about it

[macro]

guaifenesin was grandfathered, its expectorant action has never even actually been shown. What has been shown is that its an aneasthetic and adrenergic blocking agent. Try pure ephedrine, most people notice a significant difference.

[evoVIII]

Of course question being is where to get pure ephedrine?
They can sell the one with guaifanesen under the guise of cold medicine.

[macro]

Originally Posted by evoVIII

Of course question being is where to get pure ephedrine?
They can sell the one with guaifanesen under the guise of cold medicine.

nutribolicinc(canada)- brand kaizen
DNE pharmaceuticals (US- require ID)- brand bolt (there are two so get the pure one)
supplementscanada- brand bio-x

[Curlingcadys]

Originally Posted by macro

vasopro is not pure ephedrine.

you are in canada, you can easily get pure ephedrine cheap.

as far as that list its junk.



Thermorexin
EC
NYC
SYC (this covers a host of stacks based on the synephrine,yohimbine and caffeine platform)
clenbuterol (if thats up your alley)

clen at the bottom eh? Interesting especially below the E/C.

[macro]

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

clen at the bottom eh? Interesting especially below the E/C.

was not meant to be a 1st to least list. Though Plain SYC belongs at the bottom. thermorexin, clen and EC tend to be fairly comparable within a range. With some finding each of the three to to be "best", usually for quite different reasons.

[AandF_Model]

ECA stack. its dirt cheap. buy everything seperate..

[Zig5699]

I bought some vasopro ephedrine hcl 25mg and am going to start a ECA stack fairly soon. My questions is how much of each to take? I've searched up and down the boards and could not find anyone who listed dosages. Can anyone help me out with their recommended dosages? Thanks.

[Weecrack]

If you buy anythg with ephedra make sure the ephedra is derived form Mau Huang, if not its not as effective

[AandF_Model]

personally i think vasopro is garbage.
but its 20 of ephedrine alkaloids/200 mg caff/20mg aspirin taken 3 times daily

NVE made 240mg of Ephedra (24 mg Alkaloids)... if u can still find it. its 5 dollars for 60 tabs

[Curlingcadys]

Originally Posted by Zig5699

I bought some vasopro ephedrine hcl 25mg and am going to start a ECA stack fairly soon. My questions is how much of each to take? I've searched up and down the boards and could not find anyone who listed dosages. Can anyone help me out with their recommended dosages? Thanks.

25mg E and 200mg C drop the A it really isn't need at all. but if you must 200-300mg (I've seen people post taking it in this range) I think A and F forgot a "0".

Also check you local gas stations for E its cheaper than buying on line especially after shipping. Most have the same little bottles or packs.

[junkie3057]

New Guy here

My reply is in reference to Weecracks comment at the start of this thread

I was completely unaware that Ephedra could be bought legally again here in the US. i took ephedra back in 2003-2004 before it became illegal, and was very impressed with the effects...i took a brand called JACKED....it was the best shape i had ever been in....once you could no longer buy it, i stopped using energy pills, and have never seen results like i did with ephedra....

I researched a few threads, but couldnt find any answers....im wondering where you can buy ephedra based energy pills now...ive been to GNC and havent seen any......is there a website? Id love to get some more, but im not sure where to go to find ephedra based energy pills....and im also wondering how ive been so far out of the loop to not hear that you can buy ephedra products again......

Any help would be great
Thanks

[Fuse]

yeah if anyone could PM me an ephedra link i'd greatly appreciate it, thx

[AandF_Model]

http://www.enutritionsource.com/pureephedrene.html

thats a little more expensive than norm. 12$ for the ephedrine, but u can find caffiene for $5.. so really its inexspensive. Do a search on yahoo for the product on the page.. u can def find it cheaper


btw. when i said 20/200/20 ephed/caf/aspirin.. the ephedrine is counted by alkaloids not overall size. u may have a 500mg pill with 10mg of alkaloids.. while another brand sells a 20mg pill that contains 10mg alkaloids..

search yahoo for the ECA stack and u will understand what i mean.. its u want 20-24mg of Ephedrine alkaloids