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Old 01-25-2006, 11:20 PM
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OK I've been working out 5 nights a week for almost 3 weeks now. I'm on a strict diet for the first time in my life, but I don't have it down as good as I want it to be yet. I'm still figuring it all out. However, I do try to eat 5-6 meals a day with a good amount of carbs and protein in each meal. For breakfast I usually eat oatmeal or some SmartStart cereal and some boiled eggwhites.

As far as supplements, all I've been taking so far is weigth gainers and protein shakes mixed with some unflavored creatine, and I take glutamine before and after every workout. Today I just got the delivery of my first big supplement order that I placed online a few days ago. I spent a few hours researching all this stuff but I'm still not 100% sure that I'm doing it all right.

This is what will now be in my daily supplements:
N-Large2
CEE-PRO
Chromium Picolinate
Omega-3 (fish oil)
ZMApm
L-Glutamine
Vitamin C

Now the reason this seems so odd to me is because I've never had to take so many freakin pills on a daily basis. This reminds me of when my grandfather was an old diabetic and took about 10 different pills for breakfast.
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well first of all i suppose most people would ask you what your trying to achieve...gain mass, get cut, etc. i'm guessing that your trying to gain mass since you've got the nlarge. but one thing that you'll need is a whey protien powder for post workout. if you want i think you could probably just use the nlarge cuz its all whey(i think) and it also has dextrose. these are the two things that you want to take after you work out. but after you run out of the nlarge look into buying some regular whey. also you'll definitely want to add a multi to that stack. then you can take out the vit C. also, what are you taking the Chromium Picolinate for? i'm not sure what that does. but i've seen it in cell-tech. that seems like something that you might be able to drop and focus that money elsewhere. as for the glutamine i really believe that after all the recent research out about it that it really offers no significant benifits to weight lifters. instead i'd go with some bcaa's...i've seen doses around 30-50g/day. i really think that will cut down recovery time and help add some good strength and mass gains. finally just eat clean and get the right amount of calories.
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heya,
ya, at first anything out of the norm may seem like a task. I say simplify it down to your schedule. Don't even try to take it all at once, it won't do you any good. You want to space it out so you can absorb each and everyone of those (or as much as possible)

take the EFA's with 3 of your big meals...like breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Take the Nlarge post workout (but can it after your done, there are cheaper weight gainers then Nlarge...i'd personally go with MHP Up Your Mass
Vitamin C for (500 mg) for breakfast and IMMEDIATLEY post workout, and maybe before you go to bed.
CEE, pre and post workout....thats' it!
L Glutamine (some people take 5grams 4 times a day spread out...just make sure you hit it before you workout and before bed time)
ZMAPM...bedtime (I personally haven't found any good in ZMA; except a deep sleep and awesome dreams!)


your main focus should be eating well, if your not gaining simply eat more...but if you not gaining strength it could be a variety of reasons... switch up your routine every week...add drop sets, supersets, go light days and heavy days...keeping your body guessing is the key to not slipping into overtraining.

good luck, lift big, and eat big (just not to big)
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Old 01-26-2006, 05:04 PM
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Less is more...dont forget it...you are working out to much...you may be making gains now but only because you just started...you need to cut back...
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well first of all i suppose most people would ask you what your trying to achieve...gain mass, get cut, etc. i'm guessing that your trying to gain mass since you've got the nlarge. but one thing that you'll need is a whey protien powder for post workout. if you want i think you could probably just use the nlarge cuz its all whey(i think) and it also has dextrose. these are the two things that you want to take after you work out. but after you run out of the nlarge look into buying some regular whey. also you'll definitely want to add a multi to that stack. then you can take out the vit C. also, what are you taking the Chromium Picolinate for? i'm not sure what that does. but i've seen it in cell-tech. that seems like something that you might be able to drop and focus that money elsewhere. as for the glutamine i really believe that after all the recent research out about it that it really offers no significant benifits to weight lifters. instead i'd go with some bcaa's...i've seen doses around 30-50g/day. i really think that will cut down recovery time and help add some good strength and mass gains. finally just eat clean and get the right amount of calories.
Yea sorry, I forgot to include that I'm also taking a multivitamin. Mega-men from GNC.

As for what I'm trying to achieve, you are correct, I'm trying to gain muscle mass, I started this weighing a puny 135 pounds.

As far as Vitamin C, I read that I should be consuming around 3000 mg per day. My multivitamin has 300mg, and my VitC capsules are 1000mg. So after a glass of OJ with my breakfast and my multi in the morning, I another VitC pill at lunch and at night.

I'm taking the chromium to help produce more insulin, therefore producing more anabolic hormones.

Also, I soon plan on picking up some No-Xplode to take pre-workout.

Thanks for your responses.

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Old 02-03-2006, 09:39 AM
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Well something I have noticed so far is that something or a combination of these things is giving me gas... BAD. I need to figure this out cause I'm choking goats.
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You're nutrition seems fine to me. and yeah the diet part is hard to get down strictly.(im lazy to cook)

Only thing is youre working out wayy too much.
Workout every other day, Rest makes muscles grow, working out lets them grow
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