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Old 02-27-2004, 12:28 PM
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20 mg is not much
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Old 02-28-2004, 09:31 AM
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2 Questions.

1. Do you get enough glutamine in whey protein supplements (i take ON 100% whey)?

2. Which glutamine product would you guys recommend?
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:40 PM
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Yeah but i still dont know if i can take my L-glut with my protein shakes?
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Old 03-01-2004, 02:37 PM
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Yeah but i still dont know if i can take my L-glut with my protein shakes?
i believe you can.

Take 15g of glut before bed IMO, well actually not my opinion anthony ellis recommends it.
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Old 04-10-2004, 11:07 AM
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I want to take more glutamine than i ever have per day. Like about 20 or 25 grams a day. I am also going to try the insane pump dosage one day, as mentioned on page 1. Can too much glutamine be bad for you.


Like 30 grams before working out and 15 after, as mentioned in earliar post.
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Old 05-07-2004, 10:54 AM
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just spoke to the guys at Black Star Labs about an order, but I also asked what they thought about L-Glut supps and he reckoned that with taking Whey which already contains L-Glut, taking approx 10g a day is par for the course but that taking amounts which I've read about on this board are insane. Just thought it was interesting is all.
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According to a book I have here, "Prescription for Nutritional Healing"
individual amino acids should not be taken for long periods, they suggest cycling it in 2 month intervals, alternating it with other individual aminos while taking an amino acid complex (that what whey protein is?). Also refers to 6 grams per day as a "high dose" and says with some amino acids thats dangerous, although is doesn't mention glutamine specificly.
What do you guys think? I dont mind typing out paragraphs from the book if it wont get anyone sued.
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Old 05-28-2004, 06:11 AM
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thanks for all the info guys really good help!
umm so whats the best value brand or one going around right now ?
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Is their foods I can eat that have decent amounts of glutamine in them? Glutamine sounds really useful but right now I don't really want to but more money into supplements.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:12 AM
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Is it safe to take Glutamine while on Naproxen (anti-inflammatory drug) and Zanaflex(muscle relaxer)? I have a bad shoulder and was prescribed these..
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Old 08-07-2004, 11:33 AM
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Heh... I'm going to try for a Glutamine pump on my next arm day.

I have only been taking about 5-10 grams of it a day, and have noticed that I don't break out in fever blisters anymore. I used to every time I got stressed out or went too long with out getting enough rest. But I have not had a single break out since I started taking it.

Actually, I don't think I have even gotten sick one since I have been on Glutamine!
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i got some CLA laying around my house. is that plus glut plus Nitrix smart
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Pure L-Glutamine from Precision did absolutely nothing for me....i played around with the dosages - no difference...it tasted like nothing...like as plain as plain gets. It may have SLIGHTLY helped recovery from workouts, but in general, i found no results.
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How To Use Glutamine!

Answering the question of how much glutamine to consume is somewhat difficult. There is not one blanket answer to cover every variable. Things to consider when determining the amount of glutamine to consume include body weight, activity level, lifestyle stress, overall health, and diet. Another variable to consider is what you are using glutamine for. Is it to prevent OTS, stimulate growth hormone secretion, help boost your immune system, or replace sugar in your post-workout drink?
For a starters you don't want to replace sugar pwo. The magic word is insulin here.

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To assist in preventing OTS I recommend consuming glutamine both before and after training, and before bed. Again, there are too many variables to give you an exact amount to consume. Generally five to ten grams pre and post workout, and before bed is a good place to start. If you are on a very low carbohydrate diet, you may want to consider upping this amount, especially in your post-workout drink. Glutamine can increase glycogen storage by as much as 16 percent if consumed post-workout. 4
WOW. To bad glycogen synthesis is of minor importance in BBers. We are looking at protein synthesis here.

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I have seen recommendations as high as .44 grams per lean pound of body weight. Consuming high levels of glutamine about a half an hour before a workout will leave you with a memorable experience. Upon experimenting with 30 grams of glutamine pre-workout, I experienced increased muscle volume to the point that I could no longer contract the muscle.

No other supplement, including creatine, has ever given that intensity of "pump" before. I must warn you, however, I have had some people tell me they experience nausea when consuming large amounts of glutamine per serving (even with large servings I have personally never experienced any side effects).
Memorable experience indeed. For your wallet....
Where all you had to do was replace glutamine with carbs to get the same results.
Always nice to hear someone advice whole BB-ing communities based on personal experience with no scientific data to back it up.....
Furthermore. Does pump equal protein synthesis?

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But, at the same time, they also said their workouts were some of the best they've ever had. Interestingly, while I was experimenting with larger servings (30 grams pre/during workout and 15 grams post-workout) I found it nearly impossible to get sore muscles. Normally I'm hobbling around in shear pain for four or five days following a hard leg workout; I was obviously ecstatic to be able to walk around pain-free. This experiment is hardly scientific, however, if you suffer from delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS - the intense muscle pain that occurs and peaks about 48 hours after a workout) I suggest you consider adding glutamine to your supplement routine.
Great workouts? Strange since glutamine does NOT increase performance.

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Unfortunately, like so many other topics relating to our bodies, the amount of glutamine one should take offers no black and white blanket answer. Use the above recommendations as a guide and look to your body for feedback. If you gobble down 30 grams of glutamine, then feel like you're going to blow chunks, reduce your next serving size. If you have any nausea, or stomach discomfort start with small serving sizes and gradually introduce larger amounts.
My recommandations (bases on actual SCIENCE, not theory) are: Do not use it!

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Conclusion

Rarely in the sports supplement industry does one come across a product as diverse as glutamine. However, with flashy supplements hitting today's market, unfortunately glutamine has to play second fiddle. But, a solid body can never be built with these flashy supplements unless a solid foundation is first laid. If you are looking for a product that prevents sickness, speeds recovery, prevents sore muscles, and stimulates growth hormone production look no further than glutamine.
Conclusion:

Since glutamine does not increase protein synthesis (Unless you're in severely catabolic conditions, and even then glutamine was compared to saline or glycine.... Now that's some serious comparising.).
Since glutamine does not increase protein synthesis at all when added to your pre/post workout shake.
Since glutamine does not decrease protein degration more than carbs.
Since only a small part reaches the muscles.
Since muscle protein does not consist 70% of glutamine.
Since elevation of only 1 hormone (GH) means nothing when not all other variables are checked.
Since BCAAs/carbs have a glutamine sparing effect.
Since 6 g essential amino acids increase protein synthesis similar to 70 g glutamine.

Stay away from it.
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Old 10-10-2005, 07:22 PM
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For a starters you don't want to replace sugar pwo. The magic word is insulin here.



WOW. To bad glycogen synthesis is of minor importance in BBers. We are looking at protein synthesis here.



Memorable experience indeed. For your wallet....
Where all you had to do was replace glutamine with carbs to get the same results.
Always nice to hear someone advice whole BB-ing communities based on personal experience with no scientific data to back it up.....
Furthermore. Does pump equal protein synthesis?



Great workouts? Strange since glutamine does NOT increase performance.



My recommandations (bases on actual SCIENCE, not theory) are: Do not use it!



Conclusion:

Since glutamine does not increase protein synthesis (Unless you're in severely catabolic conditions, and even then glutamine was compared to saline or glycine.... Now that's some serious comparising.).
Since glutamine does not increase protein synthesis at all when added to your pre/post workout shake.
Since glutamine does not decrease protein degration more than carbs.
Since only a small part reaches the muscles.
Since muscle protein does not consist 70% of glutamine.
Since elevation of only 1 hormone (GH) means nothing when not all other variables are checked.
Since BCAAs/carbs have a glutamine sparing effect.
Since 6 g essential amino acids increase protein synthesis similar to 70 g glutamine.

Stay away from it.
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http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/fo...ad.php?t=29350
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:21 PM
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what about those glutamines that are effervescent, with bicarbonate to protect it from teh stomach so it actually reaches the intestines? or attached to an ethyl ester, would these make glutamine more effective? i used to like it, it also helped my stomach a bit, but once i got my diet stronger it didnt really do anything anymore
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I'm new to all this and just got some glutamine to enhance my workouts. I am 134 lbs. and not sure how much to take per day....Any body know???

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I'm new to all this and just got some glutamine to enhance my workouts. I am 134 lbs. and not sure how much to take per day....Any body know???

How I take my glutamine is I take 5 grams postworkout and 5 grams before bed.
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Old 03-06-2006, 08:49 PM
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i take 30g-40g per day.
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is glutamine as important as creatine to have in ya exercise program?
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