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Old 11-28-2007, 06:36 AM
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Here is his recent pics.... he quit bodybuilding due to kidney failure
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Wow, that's quite the contrast. I remember seeing him long ago...in his previous state. Didn't know this happened to him. Do you know if he HAD to completely stop training after recovery or just chose to?

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I have that black shirt he's wearing (with the cross and skull on it). Mine's white, but same shirt.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:16 AM
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I've seen pics of him last couple of years and of course he was half the man he used to be, but those new ones he really looks ill and about 50 lbs lighter than I last saw him perhaps within the last year (he trains people now, alot of IFBB guys)
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:55 AM
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Looks like a wreck. Do you know what caused the kidney issues?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:13 PM
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Looks like a wreck. Do you know what caused the kidney issues?
The whole bodybuilding lifestyle no doubt, or maybe his kidneys were not up to the task to begin with either way i bet his gone through some major depression, i wouldnt want my photo taken with those two looking like that after being a Beast like he was.
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Alot of guys have sought him out for nutrition and he has taken them to the next level..>The dude is a great professional even if he isnt the mass monster he once was...But for someone who cannot eat more than 50 grams a day of protein, you can see why he shrunk up so much
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Alot of guys have sought him out for nutrition and he has taken them to the next level..>The dude is a great professional even if he isnt the mass monster he once was...But for someone who cannot eat more than 50 grams a day of protein, you can see why he shrunk up so much
Oh so he cant eat no more than 50 grams of protein aday, poor chap no wonder huh.
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It could be as you suggest PJ, I have no idea and I don't want to jump to the easy AAS caused this to happen answer. Could be he had other issues. I just wonder that's all.

Being the skinny runt or bean pole that I was (until I started doing things right) I felt like he looked in that picture plenty of times. I've had a lot of friends who are much, much bigger then I am. I always wanted to be big, huge in fact, it just was never easy for me. Guess that is why I could really care less about what size a person is and more about the person...
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It could be as you suggest PJ, I have no idea and I don't want to jump to the easy AAS caused this to happen answer. Could be he had other issues. I just wonder that's all.
I bet it was just a combo of having weak kidneys and using all the things that Bodybuilders use, even high protein diets are deadly for anyone with kidney problems.
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If using Roids was 100% safe, with no ill effects involved no matter how or what you take, I'd for surely jump over to the darkside and become a monster.

But, with issues like this that can and may arise from improper use I certainly will choose to stay a natty as I want to live forever and train even longer!!!!
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If using Roids was 100% safe, with no ill effects involved no matter how or what you take, I'd for surely jump over to the darkside and become a monster.

But, with issues like this that can and may arise from improper use I certainly will choose to stay a natty as I want to live forever and train even longer!!!!
Well the thing is mate all drugs carry a side effect, Pain killing drugs that you can buy in drug stores are far more deadly than steroids imo, but then again i even avoid taking those kinds of drugs, a good 95% of us are junkies and the other 5% are on the way.
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But, with issues like this that can and may arise from improper use I certainly will choose to stay a natty as I want to live forever and train even longer!!!!
Me too BG=LD. If everything were safe, or even supervised by a Dr., I would go for the juice to gain size. Since I have worked in fields that deal with abuse (of all types), I try to stay natural too. To most of you guys on here I would probably be fr***ing boring.
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it was more to do with diruretics IMO

they hammer them back like candy before a show

dillett - froze like a cardboard cut out on stage and had to be lifted by 3 men

bennazia - died due to low over doing diruetics
munzer - his liver melted
flex wheeler - had multiple issues with diruetics

all taken diruetics too far and paid a price
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And we all should know what diruretics work on.....


Kidneys and liver!

Great point TKD!
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Diruretics mixed in with some Gorilla Juice makes for screwed up Kidneys.

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I can't believe the difference in this guy....WOW!
Although he looks pretty bad it's prob in his best interest now to be as small as possible so that his body does not have to work as hard to maintain.
Another thing with being on the juice like these guys is the fact that if you have a problem, the juice speeds up that problem big time.
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