builking question

[vogue]

ok guys its been 3 weeks now since ive started builking
now my shirts and jeans are starting to get a bit tight
my diet is clean exept for 1 day a week cheat day
but one concern i have is my belly is getting bigger to i do 6 days aweek cardio for 30 to 45 mins
is this normal

vogue

[ShortBucRising]

calories gotta go somewhere. You lose weight everywhere, you gain everywhere, simply put. Also depends on just how clean you're eating. What's your diet?

[vogue]

diet as posted before is whey shake 2 scoops
breakfast oats,1o 8 egg whites ,beagle with jam or whole meal muffin
mid morning approx 200 grams cottage cheese a whole meal crackers
lunch 200grams chicken breast with either veggies or wholemeal pasta
afternoon tea friut,or tuna and crackers
dinner chicken or fish veggies or salad
before bed is more cottage cheese with salsa mixed in and another shake

vogue

[Jamiel]

Do not bulk, it will only make you fat. You need to figure out how many calories you burn and just eat about 500 cal a day over that.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Jamiel

Do not bulk, it will only make you fat. You need to figure out how many calories you burn and just eat about 500 cal a day over that.

A caloric surplus (bulk) is exactly what you are asking him to do.

And you should clarify that statement as it's false.
I know plenty of people who are eating clean, but in bulk portions (aka "clean bulk") and they are getting bigger while staying lean.

[Renegade68]

~ Under Construction ~
04/28/07 - 232 lbs
05/28/07 - 217 lbs
07/10/07 - 210 lbs
07/19/07 - 215 lbs - UH OH!


^ Weekend of Beer? Rut-roh!

I start my cut 15 Aug..............gonna be weird to not bulk. I've been bulking for 38 years. LOL.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Renegade68

~ Under Construction ~
04/28/07 - 232 lbs
05/28/07 - 217 lbs
07/10/07 - 210 lbs
07/19/07 - 215 lbs - UH OH!


^ Weekend of Beer? Rut-roh!

I start my cut 15 Aug..............gonna be weird to not bulk. I've been bulking for 38 years. LOL.

I seem to take 3-4 steps forward and then 1-2 steps back and then repeat.
I went to a wedding last weekend and stayed up there camping and just ate every kind of meat you can think of and this week I have only eaten properly 1/2 the time. So all of a sudden I step on the scale today and BAM, I am 6 lbs heavier.

I was sort of shocked!!! I look bigger though, so not dissapointed 100%
But as of yesterday I am back on the wagon, no more falling off hopefully.
I need to finish my cut hopefully within the next 4-6 weeks!!!!!!!

[Renegade68]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

I seem to take 3-4 steps forward and then 1-2 steps back and then repeat.
I went to a wedding last weekend and stayed up there camping and just ate every kind of meat you can think of and this week I have only eaten properly 1/2 the time. So all of a sudden I step on the scale today and BAM, I am 6 lbs heavier.

I was sort of shocked!!! I look bigger though, so not dissapointed 100%
But as of yesterday I am back on the wagon, no more falling off hopefully.
I need to finish my cut hopefully within the next 4-6 weeks!!!!!!!

Good luck man - gotta take a break every now and then. You'll nail it.

[Papasmurf]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

A caloric surplus (bulk) is exactly what you are asking him to do.

And you should clarify that statement as it's false.
I know plenty of people who are eating clean, but in bulk portions (aka "clean bulk") and they are getting bigger while staying lean.

I tend to think of that as just following an athletic diet. To many people out there, AKA everyone in a public gym, "Bulk" means simply eat as much as you can and accept that you will get fat, then cut later. In that sense, bulking is stupid.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Papasmurf

I tend to think of that as just following an athletic diet. To many people out there, AKA everyone in a public gym, "Bulk" means simply eat as much as you can and accept that you will get fat, then cut later. In that sense, bulking is stupid.

But I would think that following an athletic diet would mean consuming just enough cals to support the muscle you have, not to consume an excess to gain more.
And By gaining muscle mass that doesnt always mean you will increase athletic performance either(refer to Bruce Lee and his logic on this)

To "gain", you must create a caloric surplus, aka "bulking".
It's your choice how you want to do this..."clean bulking" ...."dirty bulking" ....
It's a matter of supplying the body with "extra" calories to support more muscle growth.

Clean Bulking = Low carbs & low fats, but very High protein, clean foods like chicken, lean meat ...loads of meat. No sugar, no crap foods, no binge eating, no late night eating. This is a Lean muscle mass diet

Dirty Bulking = Eating everything under the sun to gain weight and not caring if the gains are more fat than muscle in the process

An example of a clean bulk meal would be

2-3 chicken breasts
Small side of sweet potatos
Side of asparagus or brocolli

Where a normal person would just eat 1 chicken breast and possibly more carbs

[khrolix]

While clean bulking, should a fair amount of cardio be implemented to take care of excess fat?

[Jamiel]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

A caloric surplus (bulk) is exactly what you are asking him to do.

And you should clarify that statement as it's false.
I know plenty of people who are eating clean, but in bulk portions (aka "clean bulk") and they are getting bigger while staying lean.

No it is not the same thing. Eating to grow LBM is not bulking, traditionally bulking is eating far over your maintenance caloric intake.....so getting fat, then having to cut later on to drop that fat. I am saying eat enough to gain muscle while not adding any fat.

He did not mention a "clean" bulk, and if he did I would have answered accordingly.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Jamiel

No it is not the same thing. Eating to grow LBM is not bulking, traditionally bulking is eating far over your maintenance caloric intake.....so getting fat, then having to cut later on to drop that fat. I am saying eat enough to gain muscle while not adding any fat.

He did not mention a "clean" bulk, and if he did I would have answered accordingly.

I guess you have hard time comprehending what you read?

Let me repeat it.. "CREATING A CALORIC SURPLUS IS CALLED.. BULKING"


Maybe if you read that 10 times in a row, you might be able to comprehend it. Let me know when you got that one down.

[jlozan84]

I'm pretty sure Bateman is referring to the old school thought of bulking/cutting, which is as he says.......eating everything you can to gain as much LBM as possible (while gaining fat along with it) and then taking 3 months to cut the fat off. That is the way I took his post.

Traditional bulking/cutting IMO is a complete waste of time.