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Old 02-02-2006, 11:46 PM
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I lift and see differences, but not like I want. I take Protain, X-Plode, Cell Mass. Im getting alot stronger, more cut, but I stay the same size. I change my workouts, keep track of my progress, train hard. Im stumped. What should I do?
I gained about 50 pounds in about a year and a half, 104 to 150ish, But now for the past couple of years im stuck.

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look at your diet. if you are not growing, it is you diet.
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You're most likely be at a plateau and need to change up your routine a bit. Shock your muscles into growing again. What is your diet consisting of?
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Eat More Food
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:18 AM
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I think changing up your routine will work.
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:27 AM
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It's the laws of physics.

In order to get bigger you have to eat more. Try a weight gainer, or just consume more calories during the day.
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:31 AM
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You said it your self.. your getting stronger and more defined but you can't gain weight.

In other words, your have reached the point where the amount of food you eat is unable to maintain any additional mass on you body. as a result you have been slimming down.. but maintaining a weight of approximately 150 pounds.

You need to eat more like was mentioned... it's a very basic law of physics.
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Yep...Bump to what has been said already....To GET BIG you have to EAT BIG!

Good luck man it sounds like you are off to a good start!
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eat twice as much - you will get bigger
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eat twice as much - you will get bigger
and a hell of a lot fatter...
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thats more of myth than anything, you would get a hell of a lot fatter if you was eating say, just icecream, didnt train, an then ate twice as much icecream, but if someones gaining lots of strength, but not gaining muscle, the reason is because there not consuming the calories to grow (or/and burning too many off) - like i said - eat twice as much and you will grow

just remember - bulk clean, bulk lean
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just eating double what you ate before is no cure all for a platuea- even if it is clean... increasing by say 1000 calories+ may have the greatest benefit.
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Doubling is execssive....I recently hit a plateau and if I had doubled my food intake I would have just ballooned in to a fattie.....
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have you tried it? - it depends how much you eat in the first place, but generally people do not eat enough when trying to add mass - people ask me if im on steroids, i say no, but i do eat 4 x what your average person does - the response is - how did you not get fat?? - everybody just thinks its always because they ate too much that they put on fat, when in reality its probably more to do with whats being ate and when

as long as you stick to the right exercises (big compound movements), structure your routine correctly, and train with the right intensity (high), making sure to push yourself to improve your weight each time, or get that extra rep - then your gonna break down your muscles etc your gonna need the food

we aint talking about a sticking point here, this person is getting much stronger, and more lean - this person is ending up with less calories than it takes to maintain, you need to be having more calories to gain size, thats the deal here - eat more

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There is only so much your stomach can absorb at once.The extra calories will go into fat or down the toilet.That's why pro's eat more often instead of taking huge meal.

So the guy is gaining strengh but no mass, did that occured to anyone that he might be overtraining or using too low rep range?

We would need his full training routine to check that out..
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. Im getting alot stronger, more cut, but I stay the same size.

You might have the same size, but that doesen't mean your shape stayed the same dude!

If your are the same size but more cut, then you did gained muscled, unless you are taller than you used to be.
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pros do eat huge meals (get a lot of kcals from sups too), they also generally eat often - however, when bulking, some eat meals that are twice the size of 'huge' an only around 4 of them - an they also DO gain fat when bulking - you cant avoid it, unless your looking for very slow progress, you have to eat a lot when bulking - this is very well known

aslong as your bulking clean (where near everybody that goes wrong, goes wrong) its not gonna be a big problem to trim the fat off afterwards, especially with the extra muscle mass
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:21 PM
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I change my routine every month or so. As far as eating, its hard for me to eat right. I eat ALOT. But me and my wife are mexican so we mostly eat fatty foods, alot of meats. It'll be real hard to eat more but I'll try. Thanks for the input fellas
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I change my routine every month or so. As far as eating, its hard for me to eat right. I eat ALOT. But me and my wife are mexican so we mostly eat fatty foods, alot of meats. It'll be real hard to eat more but I'll try. Thanks for the input fellas
If you are not going to eat right, then you cannot expect to make progress. You grow outside the gym not in the gym so keep that in mind. The initial progress that you have made was due to what is called newbie gains, but after a while the gains slow down drastically.

You have a choice, change your eating habits, or accept the results.

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SHock your muscles into growing....MOre weigth less reps...they'll grow if you giv them something to adapt to....if you dont change the weight why would they hav a reason to grow?
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