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Old 11-07-2009, 11:16 AM
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Is it necessary to run HCG at any point on a 250/wk for 10 week Test E only beginner cycle? If so When would be the best. Some people say during, some say pct, and some say NEVER on PCT because it is so suppressive. I think with a dose so low it would be overkill and with the price I would like to avoid if at all possible, but want to run first cycle safely. Also, would an AI like Extremesan be beneficial?

Lastly, with a 3 week PCT of both Clomid and Nolva, will there be any rebound of the estrogen after PCT? If so is there a way I can prevent or at least limit this (like an AI) or would that be too strong while I'm trying to return to normal?
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:21 AM
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A friend of mine also said to use Nolva throughout the cycle at 10-20 per day, which I don't mind if it will help with limiting bloat. I just don't know if it would be needed at this dose. I do plan on using Clomid for the 3 week PCT after the two week "off time" from the last injection. He is not a beginner by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't call him the sharpest tool in the shed either. Great guy, but tends to do everything a little overboard where I would rather stay on the safer side. That being said, Nolva is cheap enough for me to run throughout, but I also don't want me Estrogen to get too low to the point where it becomes a hinderance.
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Nolva will do nothing for bloat. Its not an anti e and wont lower estrogen levels. Probably wont need HCG at that low of a dose either.
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250 pw is a low dose and not sure what gains your looking for . personally i would go 250 every 3 days and average 500 per week this would be more effective in allowing gains. HCG should be injected every 3 days after 3 weeks and stopped at week 9 ( this stops shutdown during cycle) pct should be 3 weeks of nolva . and then stay off cycles for at least 10 weeks to allow body recovery. gains on a 10 week cycle of test E should be around 12lbs of solid mass.
Eat clean and lots and get a lot of rest. water is essential to stop cramps and bloat and enjoy the dark side.

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Thanks for the responses... As for the low dose, it's my first cycle so I really just want to see how much I am affected by the test and stay on the safe side. I understand it will limit my gains, but there will be time for that on the next cycle. One question about diet... I got the cycle diet pretty good, but what is recommended for the two weeks before and the three weeks during PCT. I assume I have to keep the protein high, what's the protocol for diet during this period?
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