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Old 01-05-2009, 04:39 PM
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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum so go easy

In the process of researching epistane and have a number of questions;

Ive never used any steroid of pro hormone before.

I'm 5ft 11" and weigh 81kg and have a bodyfat level of about 12%

I'm interested in the pulsing method. My main reason's being that i am to keep sides to a minimum and being a first timer i dont just want to jump into a 'full on' cycle.

1) However in all the info i find about this method it all says 3x a week on lifting days.

My problem is i lift probably 4 and sometimes 5 days a week.

Would i be better adapting my training split so that i only train 3 times a week or is there a better answer?

2) I'm planning on supplementing milk thistle, and maybe saw palmetto throughout. Any more recomendations or advice on what to supplement during the cycle?

3) Post cycle i was going to take something simple like Tribulus. Once again any info or recommendations would be appreciated!

4) I usually take PHD iso-synergy both pre and post workout. Will this product be ok to stack?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully give me some help.
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Pulsing is stupid. Run it at an even dose the whole way through for more stable blood levels=better gains and less sides. Besides, i dont know anyone including my wife that gets any sides off epistane. Tribulus is not good for post cycle. Youre HTPA will be suppressed and you need something cabable of increasing LH levels. CLomid or Nolvadex will do.
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I took 50mg for 6 weeks and don't even think I needed the Nolva. Got good gains off it too, about 10 pounds and my lifts are still increasing.
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Pulsing is stupid. Run it at an even dose the whole way through for more stable blood levels=better gains and less sides. Besides, i dont know anyone including my wife that gets any sides off epistane. Tribulus is not good for post cycle. Youre HTPA will be suppressed and you need something cabable of increasing LH levels. CLomid or Nolvadex will do.
I have no access to anything like clomid or nolvadex. Any more suggestions? Thanks for the reply by the way.
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I have no access to anything like clomid or nolvadex. Any more suggestions? Thanks for the reply by the way.
I bought mine online.

Google works ya know.
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what about taking an AI on none lifting days?
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To get nolva or what-not google RESEARCH CHEMICALS, and find a SERM for lab rats.

I just finished a 5 week cycle of epistane going up to 50mg the last week and a half, and all I got for sides were back pumps and lethargy. Nips and nuts were fine.

I just started week 3 of PCT, but I used tamoxifen citrate (liquid nolva) dosed low (since no sides) at 20,20,10,10, and at week 3 (this week) I started ALRI's RESTORE, which is an AI ( prevents estro rebound=man boobs), test boost, and cortisol control. I also added Alpha drive for a natural test booster, but read conflicting reviews on wether or not it works. RESTORE should be enough for t-boosting, anyway. And some plain old creatine-monohydrate. I stayed with fish oil, milk thistle, and Anabolic Innovations Cycle support, which has all kinds of natural goodies, although it tastes like ass. I saved the cycle support for 40mg and up, so I got enough left for cycle number 2.

I went from 237 to 252.5, so a 15.5 pound gain, and added weight and reps to lifts like a madman. I lost a couple pounds so far, but I think after starting the test-boost in PCT I should get that back and hopefully some more. I was at a standstill the first week of PCT, but think I overtrained myself, but have gained on lifts in week 2 so far.

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To get nolva or what-not google RESEARCH CHEMICALS, and find a SERM for lab rats.

I just finished a 5 week cycle of epistane going up to 50mg the last week and a half, and all I got for sides were back pumps and lethargy. Nips and nuts were fine.

I just started week 3 of PCT, but I used tamoxifen citrate (liquid nolva) dosed low (since no sides) at 20,20,10,10, and at week 3 (this week) I started ALRI's RESTORE, which is an AI ( prevents estro rebound=man boobs), test boost, and cortisol control. I also added Alpha drive for a natural test booster, but read conflicting reviews on wether or not it works. RESTORE should be enough for t-boosting, anyway. And some plain old creatine-monohydrate. I stayed with fish oil, milk thistle, and Anabolic Innovations Cycle support, which has all kinds of natural goodies, although it tastes like ass.

I went from 237 to 252.5, so a 15.5 pound gain, and added weight and reps to lifts like a madman. I lost a couple pounds so far, but I think after starting the test-boost in PCT I should get that back and hopefully some more. I was at a standstill the first week of PCT, but think I overtrained myself, but have gained on lifts in week 2 so far.

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Thanks for the detailed reply mate, much appreciated!
and thanks for the pm, been really helpfull.
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