Havoc???

[Monster of an animal]

Howdy howdy.

I have been debating what is the better of the two.

10mg in the morning of havoc along with breakfast,multi,liver support, flax seed oil,whey and glutamine (Breakfast usually around 06:00am). And 10mg with pre-workout meal (1 hour before training) along with 3xBCAA's. (Train at around 18:00pm)

Or should I rather take 10mg with pre-workout meal, and 10mg along with post workout meal replacement. (Pre-workout dose should be at around 17:00pm and post workout dose at around 19:30pm)

Height:1.94m
Weight:118kg
Bodyfat:12%

Started training again 3 weeks ago after a fairly long lay off. (Started a family) I now train 4 x week. Eat 8 x a day (Aim for around 40g of protein a meal, 40g of carbs a meal and between 7-10g of fat a meal). Diet is very clean. Bulk of fats come from flax seed oil(5 Tablespoons p/day). Also looking to possibly add some extra quality calories.

Any advise on the above would be appreciated.

Chao.

[Merk0135]

I doesn't matter when you take it. I don't know why you're trying a steroid when you're just now getting back to lifting. Enjoy your newbie gains and take full advantage of steroids later. You're wasting your money and will probably hurt yourself.

[Monster of an animal]

Appreciate the reply and honesty.

When you say "take full advantage of the steriods later", would I not get the desired results out of the cycle now?? Elaborate a little further if possible.

Thanks.

[joemomma]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

I doesn't matter when you take it. I don't know why you're trying a steroid when you're just now getting back to lifting. Enjoy your newbie gains and take full advantage of steroids later. You're wasting your money and will probably hurt yourself.

Yes. No need for that now. You do realize that Havoc is a steroid, right? But to answer your question, it doesn't really matter when you take it. I always tried to spread it out evenly throughout the day.

[waynaferd]

I would space out the Havoc and milk thistle a few hours from each other.

I would let your "muscle memory" gains go for awhile, till your close to where you were when you stopped lifting, then start the Havoc cycle.

And you do know you need a PCT, yes yes?

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by Monster of an animal

Appreciate the reply and honesty.

When you say "take full advantage of the steriods later", would I not get the desired results out of the cycle now?? Elaborate a little further if possible.

Thanks.

Sterois are to push your body past genetic limitations. If you're going to grow just fine without them because your just now getting back to lifting then there is no reason to take it. Also, the more steroids you take the more you'll need to get results. Your body does adapt. Save your cycles for when you'll get the most out of them.

[Monster of an animal]

Thanks a mill to all for comments and advise.

Will take the advise and take advantage of "muscle memory" till I get to where I was before and then re-evaluate Havoc.

Will post updates in near future of how progress goes.

Once again, thanks okes.

Until we chat again, "Never quit, never surrender, forever try until I die."

Chao!

[BUFFLURP]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

I doesn't matter when you take it. I don't know why you're trying a steroid when you're just now getting back to lifting. Enjoy your newbie gains and take full advantage of steroids later. You're wasting your money and will probably hurt yourself.

Yes, definitely wait a good long time before jumping in. you'll be greatful you did. Building back up what you had before will come much easier. Once you get (close) to that point, then go for it.
Havoc is pretty good stuff.

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