The Freezer Test does it work

[lisan]

I get many questions in regards to the so called freezer test when in comes to identifying if your products contain any real active Hormones. The answer is yes. The freezer test actually does work with oil base gear, but not like so many think. I would like to try and explain the mechanics of how this method works, and will work very effectively when done right.


BTW THE TASTE MEYHOD DOES NOT WORK PERIOD. All you tasting “or the numbing of your tung” is just the Benzyl Alcohol that is used in all anabolics, underground or not. Smell also does not work.

When using the freezer test you must have a Microscope on hand “at least 200+ magnification to get proper results. It is nice if you have test tubes available for this test, but clear glass vials ”small 5ml or 2 ml vials will work” to transfer your product into. Most fellows will most likely be testing some type of Kitchen product as they have doubts that there are real hormones suspended in the oil.

Lets say we are going to test Testosterone-Depot 200 mg x 1 ml of Test Cypionate. for example.
Why Test-Depot? This product is one of the few that must use Benzyl Benzoate 10 to 15% if not it is not a real Depot product (just ask if you need me to further explain why)

FIRST} Draw out at least 2 ml from your vial of gear and transfer to your test tube or Vial, then place in the freezer for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Within that time BB will freeze and separate from the oil in your testing vial or tube (Benzyl A will not) when you remove from your freezer you will clearly see this with no magnification needed. All Testosterones no matter the type of ester it may be, will crystalize within the BB “special note you must shake the vial hard before making the transfer into your testing vial”

Under a 200 magnification you will easily see these crystals inside the BB and how they have formed inside the BB itself. Now here is the problem most fellows will have, you must first have the real product itself before you can compare the crystals, and make the determination you are actually looking at real Testosterone. Myself and several others over the years have cataloged almost every real anabolic that is oil suspended to enable us to make this test work properly.
So the problem you may have is you are looking at a crystal within the BB but will have no idea what that crystal is. This is how San Raphael Chemical Service Co. In Salt Lake City, UT. did most all its oil suspended testing, for those who spent the $100.00 fee and sent your product for testing, noticed that SRCS always asked you to write down what exactly the product you hade been sending in for testing with your $100 fee IE. What was the product, and what was the dose of the product per ml. SRCS for the most part was not really telling you anything by there testing standards. By using this freezer method I can tell you within 5% what Dose per ml is, and what type of product it is you have, just through basic Volume and weight, once I had determined what we had in that vial of product. This test will only work with oil base gear.

Take note that the only other product other then Depot, will need to use BB in its production is 100 mg Test prop, or any high dose short ester product in order to maintain stability in that product. This is why any oil base anabolics you test, you will add in your BB prior to testing, and BB is one of the few solvents that will bond with the test crystal itself.


Please keep in mind the more products you use that are dosed over 250 to 300 mg per ml will most likely be using BB or some other type of solvent such and PG, PEG, glycerin or some type of super solvent. These products will severally scar and per mentally damage the injection area in the muscle, as it’s like placing acid in the muscle, and after so many injections the scaring will be so bad that the site area will no longer be able to be used. It is not the syringe that causes scaring, it is the harsh amounts of solvents used.

Products that are inert will show very clear without any use of Magnification . That it has nothing in it except possible BA, as you will just get a fog in the testing product. I am hoping to dig up all our data on what many oil base anabolics look like through a 400 + Magnification that are digitally pictured through my scope, and post them for your use. This is a very brief explanation of the freezer test. In many cases this method is effective when done proper.

I am going to post a pic of the Nova brand of Test Prop, this product was very easy to see that it has zero active chemical in it. So fellows that do not have a scope, or do not have any real gear to use as a reference point, will at least be able to see if what they have does have any active chemical.

YOU WILL SEE IN THE LAST PIC THAT THIS PRODUCT SAT IN THE FREEZER FOR 1 HOUR, THE OIL WILL JELL AND THE ba WILL STILL BE LIKE WATER AND WILL PORE OFF. THIS PRODUCT HAD AT MOST 2 MLS BA. VERY SAD

Peace

[waynaferd]

Interesting.....

Any ideas on how to tell if a SERM is the real deal? Tamoxifen citrate, in particular?

Or should I make a seperate thread?

Thanks!!

[lisan]

Originally Posted by waynaferd

Interesting.....

Any ideas on how to tell if a SERM is the real deal? Tamoxifen citrate, in particular?

Or should I make a seperate thread?

Thanks!!

Brother it will work the same way, but you must first break the product down and suspended it yourself in oil to find out (this can be down with water base but it is a bit harder to tell what you have), I know it is allot of work, but it can be down, the sad part is none of you fellows have the means to get your gear tested proper with out spending a great deal of money. Let me ask the many Dr's i work with and ask if there may be a place that carries the proper control license to test these products and will due it for a reasonable amount.

the product you want to test, is it already based in Liquid?
Once again my friend you must always have the real product first to compare your findings with. that is the big catch. and be sure to buy some Benzyl benzoate.
once again you will at least be able to find out whether the product you have even has any real chemical in it, without doing much work, just like i did with the Nova brand. I will also show you what a real product will look like at least one that has some type of active chemical based within it. I hope to have the pics of all the work we have done with this type of testing to help you out for future testing work.

I sure hope people are not bunking these type of products, but if there is money to be made, sad to say it will be done by some dirt bag.

Peace, and i will try and help as much as i can. I really wanted to spend allot of time on the subject as this can be a big help for many of you fellows. so i will be posting more about the subject as time allows me.

[waynaferd]

Here's the description of it ( dunno if I can post the link or not) but its for research ( lab rats)



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USP TAMOXIFEN CITRATE
(AQUEOUS SOLUTION)
1200MG - 60ML VIAL


The chemical name is (Z)2-[4-(1,2-diphenyl-l-butenyl) phenoxy]-N, N-dimethylethanamine 2-hydroxy-1,2,3- propanetricarboxylate (1:1).


Tamoxifen citrate has a molecular weight of 563.62, the pKa’ is 8.85, the equilibrium solubility in water at 37°C is 0.5 mg/mL and in 0.02 N HCl at 37°C, it is 0.2 mg/mL


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I have no idea what real stuff would look or smell like, so it is indeed hard to compare it to anything. AFAIK it's also called NOLVA.

Thanks!!

[lisan]

Originally Posted by waynaferd

Here's the description of it ( dunno if I can post the link or not) but its for research ( lab rats)



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USP TAMOXIFEN CITRATE
(AQUEOUS SOLUTION)
1200MG - 60ML VIAL


The chemical name is (Z)2-[4-(1,2-diphenyl-l-butenyl) phenoxy]-N, N-dimethylethanamine 2-hydroxy-1,2,3- propanetricarboxylate (1:1).


Tamoxifen citrate has a molecular weight of 563.62, the pKa’ is 8.85, the equilibrium solubility in water at 37°C is 0.5 mg/mL and in 0.02 N HCl at 37°C, it is 0.2 mg/mL


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I have no idea what real stuff would look or smell like, so it is indeed hard to compare it to anything. AFAIK it's also called NOLVA.

Thanks!!

Hey Partner,

I am very familiar with the product you carry, and I'm quite sure i know the company you are getting from "L.R." I am willing to bet the product is real "not 100%"

and without the real deal to compare with my friend i am afraid that it will be impossible to test in this manner, let me ask, the company you buy from are they getting 100% positive reviews? I would feel better if you would email on my secure email server RAK1@vistomail.com the product you want is very easy to get without going to the extent of buying it in liquid form, it is not controlled the same as anabolics. I have a few suggestions, but since you already have the liquid form, the best advice is try it, do you suffer from Gyno or are you getting sensitive in the nipple area? sorry my man i have not been more help to you.

Peace

[waynaferd]

I'll just say the "research" is "innovative"



And so far so good.....I also have a natty AI and test booster, so if the nolvadex isn't 110% I should be safe....."should".......

[lisan]

Originally Posted by waynaferd

I'll just say the "research" is "innovative"



And so far so good.....I also have a natty AI and test booster, so if the nolvadex isn't 110% I should be safe....."should".......

Sorry for such a late reply my man, Yes you are good to go. let me ask any good news since we spoke?

Peace