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To make a long story short. Wanted Test got Deca. I hear eveybody telling me that Deca is a waste of time, but I've done plenty of research to tell me its good enough for a first timer. Anybody disagree?
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Well, deca alone for a first is not something I would do but if you think you ready go for it. Just remember it does kill you sex drive 9 out of 10 times
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Well I can deal with not having a sex drive. Sex is probably the last thing I'd wanna be thinking about when I'm on this stuff. I just wanna be safe when doing it. Sex will always be there.
Any tips on combating the progesterone like effects? Also any tips on knowing if I'm prone to progesterone or gyno?
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Well if youve only got one 10ml bottle, youll likely only get 9 injections/weeks out of it. Theres a little waste every time you do a shot and alot of times the bottles are underfilled a tad to begin with. Deca takes at least 5 weeks to kick in too, so in all likelihood youll be running a cycle with 4 weeks of gains. Not really worth it imo when you consider the amount of shutdown, loss of sex drive, and the amount of time itll take to completely recover to normal. Get some more gear, run at least 400-500mg a week for at least 12 weeks, and do it right.
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test prop needs to be shot eod. it has a short ester.
1st cycle should be test only. dont get me wrong i did test e and deca for my first cycle but i took a chance. why not just run test prop 100mgs. eod for 6-8weeks. if your gonna run the deca anyway i would do this weeks 1-12 deca@300mgs a week weeks 1-13 test e or c 400mgs a week pct starts 2 weeks after last shot of test bro not to be rude but i think you should do more research on aas. know what you are putting in your body and what the effects are going to be so you can prepare for any sides that do accure. what is your age? and most important what is your diet going to look like. you can also check out steroid.com for a little reading up on the subject. good luck in whatever you decide and i hope this helped you out a little
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None taken. I'm 23 turning 24 soon. I've been lifting for 3 years now consistenly. I'm about 5'8 195lbs with 14% BF. Diet will be clean as possible. 4000 calorie intake minimum everyday spread out 2-3 hrs each. I know my stuff pretty well, but everywhere I go I hear mixed reviews of everything so I start second guessing myself. I know its a bad habit, but it makes you think. Anyway I'll get started on this test/deca blend on Monday morning. Thanks for the the great advice McHunter.
BTW can you give me a sample of a PCT of what I should do. I was thinking of a mixture of Nolva and Clomid, but am very interested in include some HCG to pump start my bodys self producing test.
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You are a little young for this stuff bro...but it seems that you are ready to jump into this. So here it goes,
my advice is this, keep dosages at around 300-400mg of whatever you take. If you have a blend of test prop/deca inject 2x a week. You might be able to get away with it without having much hormonal fluctuation from the test. For PCT, do this cycle for 8 weeks then if the gains stop then do PCT if not milk it another week or two. The shorter the cycle the better. HCG, I would suggest to do it 250iu 2X a week. It is good to keep your nuts plumped throughout all the way to the end. At the end, after the last shot of deca keep doing the HCG for 3 more weeks THEN start 50mg clomid 3-4 weeks. After that just let you body recover on itsown. Here it is: Week 1-8 deca blend 300-400mg 2x a week Week 1-11 HCG 250iu 2x week Week 12-14 Clomid 50mg ED This is the best way to do PCT without second guessing yourself. Also, make sure you have dostinex or gabergoline on hand along with clomid and either (arimidex, aromasin, letro) NOW not down the road when you run into potential issues. Now, before you start let me know the mix you have of each compound. I might change the dosage based on what's in the mix I will guide you through the cycle if you want but you need to listen to the T, and don't start without ALL the potantial neccesary compounds. For this cycle you DO NOT NEED NOLVA!!! If you want to control bloat use arimidex or aromasin. Letro can be used in case of total failure of your body to control estrogen!! However is good to have on hand. Now, do you have all this stuff?
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8 weeks to short for deca cycle.
it wont kick in for about 4 weeks. i was always under the assumption you have to run deca for at least 12 weeks. ive never heard of a test prop/deca mixture not saying some ugl hasnt made it. im wondering if it is test e 200mgs/deca 200mgs mix . the prop will kick in faster.
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Nandrolone acetate or decanoate? Test cyp, enth or propionate? I do not think you have what you think you have....bro It is odd to have nandrolone decanoate with test prop mix. It's either test prop/NPP OR test cyp or enth/nandrolone decanoate as Mchunter suggested.
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