question on first cycle

[sweener]

i am thinking of goin on a cycle that would be sustanon and dbol it would be my first cycle and i ahve been traingin for about 7-8 years hard now wanna make the jump
i am thinking of about 30-40 mg of dbold a day pyramiding up at mid point then comin back down with a shot of sustanon every week and info on this would be great guys
my guy said its a good stack for a newbie but i wanted to come ask the experts
i am 6'3 210
with about 10-13 % bf
eat as healthy as i can if ya need more infor please ask thanks
chris

[sweener]

anyone ?? i know someone can help a fellow man out
oh by the way i am 27

[vassille]

I would do 2x a week of sustanon, not as much for quantity but just to keep blood concentration more stable, as for the rest is good.
Keep it at 8 weeks on the sustanon, and 4 weeks on the dbol for a quick recovery.
You might need to keep nolva on hand for any gyno signs
and if you bloat badly start taking .5mg Adex 3x a week.
PCT?
Do you have clomid, nolva ?

If yes, then 3 weeks at 50mg of clomid/or 20mg week 1&2 then 10mg ED for week3 of nolva should be enough.
If you do not have this stuff get it before the cycle

[sweener]

i can get teh clomid and nolva no problem but what is adex ? i am guessin it is nolvadex but just makin sure i am clear on that thanks for the reply much aprreciated. just wanted to run this but the guys in the know before i decided to try this out
thanks again big help

[will-hill]

i would go with 125mgs of sustonon every other day to keep blood plasmalevals nice and stedy .

weeks 1-10 125mgs sust eod

weeks 1-4 40mgs dbol ed

nolva 30/30/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/20

start the pct 16 days after last shot of sust...

[Awais_uk]

i aint no expert but rather than taking that much dbol per day, would one tab of anadrol at 50mg be more effective?

[will-hill]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

i aint no expert but rather than taking that much dbol per day, would one tab of anadrol at 50mg be more effective?

anadrol and dbol are 2 differnt compounds and some like drol some like dbol ..

drol for me gives me great gains with min warter ,i have seen it blow guys up like a warter bolloon so its differnt for everyone.....

both are great compounds for kick starting a cycle tho..

to the thread starter keep dbol at a stedy pace and dont tapper up and down with it,this will cause more side if you tapper it..

[vassille]

Originally Posted by sweener

i can get teh clomid and nolva no problem but what is adex ? i am guessin it is nolvadex but just makin sure i am clear on that thanks for the reply much aprreciated. just wanted to run this but the guys in the know before i decided to try this out
thanks again big help

Adex=arimidex an aromatose inhibitor- simply put it reduces estrogen production at the source

[vassille]

Originally Posted by will-hill

i would go with 125mgs of sustonon every other day to keep blood plasmalevals nice and stedy .

weeks 1-10 125mgs sust eod

weeks 1-4 40mgs dbol ed

nolva 30/30/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/20

start the pct 16 days after last shot of sust...

Yes, sustanon can be pined EOD to take advantage of the fast acting test but not really necessary.
As for PCT, imo it is way too much in this case. 30mg of Nolva and 100mg clomid is a bit overkill

[vassille]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

i aint no expert but rather than taking that much dbol per day, would one tab of anadrol at 50mg be more effective?

Not really, and you want to split the orals 2x a day morning and night for more stable plasma levels

[mitchcumstein]

Ive ran dbol 2x and never went past 30mg day. It made me bloated as hell and by blood pressure went up quite high. It does make you feel good though, mentally. Hard to explain.

[will-hill]

Originally Posted by vassille

Yes, sustanon can be pined EOD to take advantage of the fast acting test but not really necessary.
As for PCT, imo it is way too much in this case. 30mg of Nolva and 100mg clomid is a bit overkill

i disagree you want a strong a possable pct for any cycle=a good strong pct =more keepable gains and a happy recovery..

what pct would you say for his cycle then?

[sweener]

Originally Posted by will-hill

i would go with 125mgs of sustonon every other day to keep blood plasmalevals nice and stedy .

weeks 1-10 125mgs sust eod

weeks 1-4 40mgs dbol ed

nolva 30/30/20/20

clomid 100/50/50/20

start the pct 16 days after last shot of sust...

when you say nolva at 30/30/20 /20 is that 30 mgs a week ?

[will-hill]

Originally Posted by sweener

when you say nolva at 30/30/20 /20 is that 30 mgs a week ?

its week 1-30mgs every day /week 2 -30 mgs every day/week 3-20mgs every day/week 4-20mgs every day.