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Old 03-31-2008, 12:56 AM
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Well most of you on here prolly dont know me, but ive been hovering these boards for years. I used to be a very active member but kinda fell outta sight a year or 2 ago. since then ive been through ups and downs, big training setback of torn ligaments in my wrist due to an atv accident, hurt me bad, lost alot of weight. Ive since then joined the marine corps and am now stationed in Japan. The only thing to do over here is jack weights, the gym we have is amazing, so i take full advantage. The food they serve at the mess hall is packed with good carbs and protein, and is very well rounded. plus the supplements and meals i eat in the room and frequently go to Subway for some chicken subs (mmmmm). Ive got my routine all in order and now im finally ready to take it to the next level. I feel that if i can go to the sand box and get shot at i can take a cycle. Ive read FAQ's, articles on bb, m&d magazine testosterone sections and ive done my research. Originally, i was all for insulin, however that would be too risky and time consuming for my schedule. The biggest dilema I have is that I am planning to do Orals only. I know. I know, this is not good. I know its not effective as injectables , however, brushing aside the fact that i have a phobia of needles...that dont matter, i can dig down deep for that, its the fact that it will take much longer prep and alot more hassel to try and get amps in here and conceal them. However, i am open for help on this matter via PM's or replies. I figure most people would rather PM, so please do. I need all the help i can get in making a solid decision on this. I read that anavar is the only good oral to take by itself, however mass gains are slim to none. My intentions for this cycle is a bulk. I plan on doing bulking for the next year and a half, then take a 6 month cutting phase before rotating back home.


The other dilema I have is that if I were sumhow to go for injectables, I cant seem to lock on a good place to buy the supplies and what ones exactly to get. I know 1.25 - 1.5" for the glutes/quads, but what the exact products im looking for im a little hazy. Like i said im leaning towards orals, I have it all mapped out as far as PCT with nolva and milk thistle, ALA, Saw Palmetto and the other goods for liver and kidney care, I just want to see what help and advice i can get from you all on here. I have been watching these boards for years and ive learned alot from you guys, and the first people i turn to is you guys. So please dont shoot me down haha, ill let that to the iraqi's...thanks for all the help guys
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It must be nice to pump iron all day....j/k
I can see where you come from with using the orals however you need to use them here and there...I think you said you want to bulk for 1 1/2 years and there is so many oral cycles you can do in this period.
THe thing with orals you really don't get much gains past week 4-5. So keep it short, it could be a month on and 2-3 months off. In one year I wouldnt do anymore than 2-3 cycles like this followed by PCT.
The biggest issues you are going to encounter is the lipid profile. Cholesterol needs to be monitored along with liver values especially if you have any family issues. Keep doses moderate and the liver should be ok but the cholesterol is a BIGGIE.
As for injectables, they are much better but being that you are in foreign land you need to find a source that ships international.
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Thanks for the reply, I was reading all night last night and researching the injectables and i want to do that so much more, way more effective and less dangerous to the liver. I would be able to get pins no prob, i know the sizes i need now and what not. This brings me to my other concern, i also read about purchasing online...i read ALOT about this. I read it a few years back but needed to brush up on the subject. I seem to be at a moral standstill, it said not to buy from a flashy sight, which...the site i am currently viewing is pretty flashy, but not well known (atleast to my knowledge). I was referred by an NCO at my last duty station, he is the last person i ever talked to about juice on a military base. unlike the civilian world, asking about steroids on a military installation is like saying hey lets go do a line of coke to some NCO's / officers, even some moto-ass enlisted. If anyone can PM me for some assistance , ill provide you with the address and you can help me lean in a direction i need to go on this. Like i said, im not in a super rush, I learn that with patience comes good things. Thanks for all the help so far guys
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Sourcing is something to be walked on a fine line.....Around the world is kind of free to do what you want and some countries really do not care what you do. But here it's different and it's not allowed. We can chat all you want about cycles and the best way to maximize your gains, just a word of caution is to not ask for sources....I know you are cool about it but in all honesty be careful bro,
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Oh i understand perfectly, Im in no way shape or form asking for a source blatently out in the open, i just wanted some educated opinions on the topic of what im dealing with here. Im not trying to lose money or risk putting stuff into my body i dont know what it is, i just have no experience with online doings. All i wanted is a Ye or Nay for the site I have, I ofcourse wouldnt deal with it on the board, i would resort to other contact methods. But if thats pushing it thats fine, i understand completely.
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Hi Bane,

Hey im just curious, whats is the Marine Corps attitude towards things like this?

Would you be in major **** if you somehow got caught?

I only ask because for some reason i just assumed you guys would be being piss tested fairly regularly or something...

anyway, good luck and be smart bud.
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Their stance towards illegal drugs is 0 tolerance, however, I was told by an NCO friend mine that they do not test for AAS. I myself and every1 I know whos been a marine has never heard of anyone getting busted for AAS. My cousin and my best friends brother both did many cycles while stationed in Camp Pendleton, CA while on a MEU to Thailand, they said almost every1 in their infantry unit was doing cycles. The 2 biggest busts are Marijuana and Meth. Meth mostly in Jacksonville, NC...its like the 2nd biggest Meth city in the country. The hardest thing for me would be to conceal injectables if i got them, as well as the syringes. Orals would be easily disguisable in other bottles and what not, but injectables id have to sit down and plan where i would keep them keeping in mind the temperature and conditions they would be in.
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