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Old 03-05-2008, 07:38 AM
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Hi guys, have finished my previous cycle which i was doing over winter

4ml sustanon p/w
2ml deca p/w
100mg anadrol p/d

and finished off with 5000iu HCG over 3 weeks and arimidex.
Have got some amazing gains. I've gone 4 weeks clean and now going to go for another cycle.

The plan is to do

2ml deca p/day
4ml enanthate p/w
2ml trenbolone p/w

i was also considering adding winny + or clen.
and also replacing tren with primo, or may just do both.

any feedback appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:58 AM
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Uh, that's a lot of gear. I would consider a little more time off, perhaps?
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Uh, that's a lot of gear. I would consider a little more time off, perhaps?
i agree. take some more time off. what's the rush?
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musclebeach man, got a holiday planned there for july. dont wana look out of place.
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I wouldn't do that cycle the way you have it set up....and for me to help you or give you any advice I need to know more about your experience ,age, years lifting, how many cycles, gains made, etc....
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:56 AM
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I wouldn't do that cycle the way you have it set up....and for me to help you or give you any advice I need to know more about your experience ,age, years lifting, how many cycles, gains made, etc....
OK, 22 going on 23, been lifting since i was 17.
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Have ran 4 cycles so far

1st cycle was 4ml deca p/w + 2ml sust 250 p/w for 8 weeks
gained 14lbs

2nd cycle anadrol + deca for 8 weeks
gained 18lbs

3rd cycle winstrol + clen + deca, lost about 9lbs

4th cycle as mentioned above. gained 22lbs

Current BF% is quite high, around 21% which im hoping to trim off after this cycle.
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well, your cycles suck. You have yet to run deca long enough for it to do anything. You are relying on Andarol as a weight/muscle gainer and it's highly known to add lots of water, which is later lost. You don't really say how much of the injectables are per ml.. is the deca 300mg/ml or 100mg/ml? So it's hard to guess what you are really trying to run. Also, running deca and tren together... I really hope you have the ancillaries on had to combat the progestren...otherwise, you will be the best looking guy with tits on musclebeach.

Please rethink and re-evaluate your goals and how to get there, there is no shortcut.
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well, your cycles suck. You have yet to run deca long enough for it to do anything. You are relying on Andarol as a weight/muscle gainer and it's highly known to add lots of water, which is later lost. You don't really say how much of the injectables are per ml.. is the deca 300mg/ml or 100mg/ml? So it's hard to guess what you are really trying to run. Also, running deca and tren together... I really hope you have the ancillaries on had to combat the progestren...otherwise, you will be the best looking guy with tits on musclebeach.

Please rethink and re-evaluate your goals and how to get there, there is no shortcut.

Sorry dude, deca was 200mg/ml. PCT is going to be 3 weeks of HCG 5000iu along with arimidex and nolvadex.

My goal is to get to about 215lbs by the end of the cycle. Then look to do a cutting cycle towards summer.

What would you recommend as another option?

Thanks for feedback guys
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Why are you relying so much on steroids for your gains?

Just curious.
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Why are you relying so much on steroids for your gains?

Just curious.
Excellent question, and bro at your age you should be able to gain 14 pounds in 8 weeks without steroids ,maybe you just need to train harder or eat more, im 25 been at this game for around 3 years im 5'11 203lbs steroid free
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While I think honest successes are definitely safer and more rewarding, he is posting in the Anabolic Steroid section of the forums. I think trying to talk him out of using steroids after 4 cycles is a bit silly.

Lets just try to make sure his babymaker still works after all of this.
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I really hope you have the ancillaries on had to combat the progestren...otherwise, you will be the best looking guy with tits on musclebeach.
Definitely pulled something in my side laughing at this.
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While I think honest successes are definitely safer and more rewarding, he is posting in the Anabolic Steroid section of the forums. I think trying to talk him out of using steroids after 4 cycles is a bit silly.

Lets just try to make sure his babymaker still works after all of this.
Listen gill no one is trying to talk him outta anything here, i could care less if he triples his dose, good for him, i'm just tryin to say that if i can gain 20+ pounds in 8 weeks without steriods he should be able to far surpass this with the help of steriods
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Ok, so let me do the math. Youre 198lbs and 20% bodyfat? That means you only have 156lbs of lbm at 5 foot 9 inces, and after 4 cycles? Youre not doing something right. I almost had that much lbm before i ever touched a weight. Were you skinny as a twig to start or something?
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Ok, so let me do the math. Youre 198lbs and 20% bodyfat? That means you only have 156lbs of lbm at 5 foot 9 inces, and after 4 cycles? Youre not doing something right.
great point mitch. i also still say he should wait longer before starting another cycle. IMO 4 weeks is not nearly enough between cycles.
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Anadrol, Deca, and Tren.....WooWee.....TITTY TWISTER ANYONE?
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yeh i was mega twiggy before, i've tread eating a shed load more, all sorts of routines nothings worked that great but gear for me. But thanks for the advice guys.
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Looking at the avatar you look like 90% of the AAS users on the net

like someone who has achieved what a natty trainer could achieve in 1-1.5 years of decent training.

dannyboy has a better build

drop the gear, get on a forum where you can get decent advice so you can sort out a training and diet plan.
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as you can see, your past experience has not been all that well thought out. You are relying on AAS to make you big, it will temporarily to do, but in a couple of months, you will be back to that 180 lb guys trying to figure out what happened. Do you even understand what AAS does, and how it effects your body, and not with "it makes me big", kind of response.

I believe all on here will help you, but you are going about it all wrong. You will not keep any of these gains at this pace. Your PCT is horrible, PCT is usually 4-8 wks of recovery. Take a few ancillaries will not get your HPTA back on track. It would be interesting to see if all that anadrol has started destroying your liver. These are powerful drugs that alter your hormones and well being. Try to understand what you are doing before just taking something or putting it into your body. You may feel like you are on top of the world, but when the liver is gone, it will be gone and you will be stuck on dialysis by the time you are 30.

Be smart, rethink what you are doing, get bloodwork done and move foward. Be smart man, and most importantly, be safe. Know what you are doing....read, learn, read, learn... then DO!
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