Feedback on my next cycle.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

yeh i was mega twiggy before, i've tread eating a shed load more, all sorts of routines nothings worked that great but gear for me. But thanks for the advice guys.

at your age, you never gave it time. Did you actually think you could put on 20 lbs a muscle in one year. Either you diet plan was not right, and/or your routine suffered. Saying only AAS helped is admitting you were doing everything wrong. And if your diet isn't right, or your routine isn't right... AAS isn't going to do a freakin' thing for you execept cause health problems down the road.

[Awais_uk]

thats an old avatar pic. Anyhow, i been ridiculed enough for one day Thanks for the info guys.

legion of doom dude, i understand what ur saying, but there ALOT of people out there who rely on just gear to get them where they are. I reckon i've put as much effort in as the next person who has achieved his goals. Just cos one routine/diet etc... works for one person, dont necessarily means it'll work for me

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

thats an old avatar pic. Anyhow, i been ridiculed enough for one day Thanks for the info guys.

legion of doom dude, i understand what ur saying, but there ALOT of people out there who rely on just gear to get them where they are. I reckon i've put as much effort in as the next person who has achieved his goals. Just cos one routine/diet etc... works for one person, dont necessarily means it'll work for me

exactly, you need to find what works for you, and you just pitched in the towel. Relying on AAS to get you where you want to go will not get you there. But if you feel better mentally, good for you. Just be smarter on your cycles and plan them out better.

[mitchcumstein]

I just dont understand if you were a twig before how you put so much fat on with gear. Your diet must really really suck.

[Awais_uk]

dirty bulking mainly, i've not really done a propper cutting cycle as yet

[joemomma]

Originally Posted by Awais_uk

dirty bulking mainly, i've not really done a propper cutting cycle as yet

*thinks you shouldn't need a "proper cutting cycle" if things were done correctly*

[chriscarr_78]

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

[$UPERM@N]

Originally Posted by chriscarr_78

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

what are you talking about, there was no original question idiot haha

"any feedback appreciated. Thanks guys."

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by chriscarr_78

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

they did. the cycle sucks(see post 7). and now that we know more about him, it sucks even more as it pertains to his situation.

There, that good enuff?

[jlozan84]

Originally Posted by chriscarr_78

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

What?

So "being nice" is more important than being honest to hope and save this guy problems down the road? You are right it is better to lead him down the path of health problems, wasted money on gear, and minimal to no gains as long as feelings aren't hurt right?

Thanks Oprah.

[wnxmaximus]

Originally Posted by chriscarr_78

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

They are just trying to help a brother out. It is actually dangerous at that age to take that much gear (its a cycle that sucks furthermore) and at a point in his life where gear is not needed to continue progressing towards his goals.

Look man... we are not trying to be pricks or anything. However, Mitch made a good point earlier. At your height and weight, especially when you consider you have ran a cycle before. You should be much leaner, or much heavier. Either way your LBM should be higher. This isnt opinion, it is just the truth. YOu have like 5 or 6 years of training and a cycle under your belt, and your LBM has probably only gone up 15 or 20 pounds. That means something else is out of check. A cycle is not going to fix that.

Consider sucking it up, and not taking the easy way (which doesnt even seem to work, considering your past experience) out of this. Take a hard look at your diet, training, rest, everything. Study it, tweak, make gains. Then in a few years when your LBM is around 180 or more, and your are leaner, then consider using the assistance of steroids. Until you have everything else figured out, your gains will be minimal and disappointing. The side effect of those minimal gains could be possible health problems and an empty wallet.

Everyone here wants everyone else to succeed. Sometimes the truth is that some people are going about it in a hasty and possibly dangerous way.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by chriscarr_78

Such a friendly site...

Instead of everyone taking the piss and being holier than thou, can't someone answer his original question?

I did, I told him the cycle sucks, and to rethink what he was doing. Because what he is doing, is destroying his body with improper use of AAS. We are here to help, not preach. If he choses not to listen, that is his choice. But he as already stated he doesn't know how to diet or train. He's fat, getting fatter, and thinking that AAS is going to make him look pretty on muscle beach.

Did we miss something, or did you want to answer his question?

[Gill]

All hail, hrpiii!

[Taekwondo Guy]

sh1t... i knew i forgot to post

'good base'

or

'looks good'

[ryanbodybuilder]

um well dont use deca or tren because those are too suppresive....
just increase your dosage of test to maybe 1g or 1.25g or 1.5g per week..of course run a low dose of arimidex on cycle as well....
do NOT use deca or tren....terrible terrible idea unless you want to be on HRT the rest of your life....

[$UPERM@N]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

sh1t... i knew i forgot to post

'good base'

or

'looks good'

you`re right dude good base, haha i havn`t been around in almost 2 years and that joke is still goin, that`s great

[vassille]

Well, some of you keep saying to make gains naturally but unfortunately he has done lots of gear for his age and that might be imposible at this time. My honest a God advice is to see if your body can still recover at this point as it may never be able to and with even more cycles you want to do, will never recover for sure. The reason you are getting fat can be atrribuited to diet, poor training etc however, you can get really fat if you eat bad in combination with having low test and lack of cardio + having your hormons way the hell out of wack.
Now the question is this....what would you like to do, keep cycling and pretty much go on HRT or Back off recover as much as your body will allow then rethink your approach.
The choice is yours, and we all make choices and live by them. If you really want to do another cycle then let's chat. Post up your routine, food intake, and will work on a nice cycle for you so at least you have everything covered so you can enjoy maximum gains.

If you want to recover then let me know and will work out a schedule along with training, food and supps

One last thing, to all who answered to his thread I think is time to all calm down, I believe he got the point....I know some of you are tough and to the point however he already did what he did, it's his choice let's now help him out and stop being so damn aggressive

[chriscarr_78]

Originally Posted by vassille

Well, some of you keep saying to make gains naturally but unfortunately he has done lots of gear for his age and that might be imposible at this time. My honest a God advice is to see if your body can still recover at this point as it may never be able to and with even more cycles you want to do, will never recover for sure. The reason you are getting fat can be atrribuited to diet, poor training etc however, you can get really fat if you eat bad in combination with having low test and lack of cardio + having your hormons way the hell out of wack.
Now the question is this....what would you like to do, keep cycling and pretty much go on HRT or Back off recover as much as your body will allow then rethink your approach.
The choice is yours, and we all make choices and live by them. If you really want to do another cycle then let's chat. Post up your routine, food intake, and will work on a nice cycle for you so at least you have everything covered so you can enjoy maximum gains.

If you want to recover then let me know and will work out a schedule along with training, food and supps

One last thing, to all who answered to his thread I think is time to all calm down, I believe he got the point....I know some of you are tough and to the point however he already did what he did, it's his choice let's now help him out and stop being so damn aggressive

Now that's what I was talking about.