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Old 05-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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Man... Today I am really draggin butt, even after 8 hours hard sleep... got up at 5:50 and ran for 30 mins... After I came down from that, I have been dopey all day... ate a few Jolt mints this morning and some candies (which I usually don't do), that didn't do much... now it is 12:44pm, ate my lunch (turkey wrap, lowfat yogurt) and I am sipping on 16oz Sobe Adrenaline Rush...

Food so far today besides water: Protein shake w/skim milk, 2 slices banana bread, a few jawbreakers, gum, 5 jolt mints, turkey wrap, low-fat yogurt, Sobe Adrenaline Rush...

Current Daily Supplements: 2 AST Multi32, 1000mg Vit C (immune & fat burner), 900mg St. Johns Wort (mood booster), AX X2/fx stack (4 pills each - test booster), 1000mg Niacin-Inositol Nicotinate (lowers cholesterol levels). Soon will be on Red Yeast Rice & Omega 3 1000mg each for Chol levels and the AX stack is done in 7 days.

I read the AX Hyperdrol X2/Mass FX stack causes some lethargy, but this is the slowest I been in a long while... This is my fourth and final week of the stack though...

Since I am close to my bf goal, I am thinking I need to up my carbs a bit from a high protein, low carbs, low fat, no sugars diet to a high protein, med carbs, low fat, low sugar diet... I am hoping that and ending the AX cycle on Sat will give me some energy back… I want to get away from taking caffeine pills, unless it is before workout.. cause that isn’t good…

I should be feeling like this... , not like
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:55 PM
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Your hormones are f'd up. I'm suprised your not more lethargic then you have been. I'm not a big gear guru, but you probably have like no estrogen in you = BAD. Shoulda saved the AX Hyperdrol X2 for PCT.

The Mass FX probably stopped you from producing test naturally. Combined with Hyperdrol.... Dunno what happens there. I believe hyperdrol is gonna block test from converting to estrogen. This causes low estrogen, so your body boosts testosterone to try and convert more estrogen, but because you have the Mass FX in you, your body senses it already has enough testosterone, so it doesnt produce sh*t.

I dunno, moving to pro hormones section.
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Hyperdrol is suppose to boost test production, Mass FX to boost muscle pumps and help test be more effective...

My libido and workouts/cardio are ok when I get going... just too pooped to party recently...
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Hyperdrol is an anti-aromatase. It increases testosterone by blocking its conversion to estrogen. Because your body is low on estrogen, it produces more testosterone in a vain attempt to convert it to estrogen.

Mass FX, looks like a prohormone/prosteroid, but I'm no chemist and dont know much about this product.
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Could be peaking and too much for me now.. 4 per day of each is the dosage... Seeing I only weight 150lbs.. I'll try 3 day thru Monday..
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I would taper the Hyperdrol. Let your estrogen levels slowly come back.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in here.........RRAdam?
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got an reply from AX... should be 1 pills per 50lbs for this stack... dropping to 3 a day... wish I new this before... could of did 40 days worth...
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I feel better today...

I did lower the dosage of the AX stack (x2/fx) to 3 pills a day each..

But I also upped my carbs last night with dinner (potatoes)... I think my carb level was too low the last few days due to my diet and increasing my cardio.
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got an reply from AX... should be 1 pills per 50lbs for this stack... dropping to 3 a day... wish I new this before... could of did 40 days worth...
AHHHH priceless reasearch would have handed you this information
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AHHHH priceless reasearch would have handed you this information
1 pill per 50lbs is kinda unspoken I guess.. got it from an ax rep and an email from ax directly... didn't come across it when I was looking at all the logs and info from ax on this stuff on bb dot com though... figures... might because it would take you longer to use it up and buy more... I might do that with the DS stack I have for July though...
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