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Old 05-08-2007, 09:15 AM
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Will be starting a 5-6 week cycle of 1-AD and 4-AD. Finishing up some unopened bottles I have laying around.

How many mg e/day would you recomend of nolva and for how long?
Would you run any other PCT's?

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6wk cycle of 1-ad would probably need a 4 week pct of nolva.

id say
weeks 1-3 40mg a day
week 4....30mg a day

but im not experienced in this region. as ive only ever used clomid but from what i read this would be about right!!!
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wk1 - 40
wk2 - 20
wk3 - 20
wk4 - 10
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See my post about Havoc - there's some good info for support supps/PCT ideas.
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ive always used clomid but a lot of people say they pefer nolva.
is it any better and why?
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Check the sticky in the AAS forum about PCT...there's some info there about the differences in Clomid and Nolva, although I don't recall what they are at the moment.
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Thanks for the follow-up guys.

I made this exact same post in another "steroid" forum.
And they said nolva would not be needed witth this cycle:

Wks1-6 1-AD(ergopharm) & Mag-10 4-AD-EC
would not need nolva because it will not shut down test levels like a real steroid.

any comments?
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prescription or UG nolva?
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UG meaning underground?

Papernol or papernolva w/e its called
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Thanks for the follow-up guys.

I made this exact same post in another "steroid" forum.
And they said nolva would not be needed witth this cycle:

Wks1-6 1-AD(ergopharm) & Mag-10 4-AD-EC
would not need nolva because it will not shut down test levels like a real steroid.

any comments?
1AD and 4AD are pro-hormones so I agree with the above. You dont need nolva for that. That is overkill. Again, this is my opinion on this cycle. Im sure others will disagree.
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1AD and 4AD are pro-hormones so I agree with the above. You dont need nolva for that. That is overkill. Again, this is my opinion on this cycle. Im sure others will disagree.
And I will be one of those to disagree...

I strongly suggest using nolva for pct for anything that will shut you down.

It sounds as if you are using UG nolva, so for those dosages given, you need to multiply that by 1.5. so instead of 40/20, you will need 60/30.
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i was under the impression that test cycles didnt need such an aggressive pct?.. nite, what would you use in place of nolva if anything?

and adam im not disagreeing, maybe i was misinformed but its better to be safe than sorry in your opinion which is probably smart.
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i was under the impression that test cycles didnt need such an aggressive pct?.. nite, what would you use in place of nolva if anything?

and adam im not disagreeing, maybe i was misinformed but its better to be safe than sorry in your opinion which is probably smart.

I feel something like Rebound XT would be sufficient.
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Ok, I won't say that RXT wont work.. but... why would nolva be overkill?
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Ok, I won't say that RXT wont work.. but... why would nolva be overkill?
I dont feel a pro-hormone will provide enough testosterone to make an imbalance to where you would need nolva. I never had a problem not taking nolva with pro-hormones nor have I personally known anyone who has. I am talking bodybuilders I know around here.

I feel it would be kind of like taking oxycontin for a headache when just good old fashioned aspirin would do the trick.
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I would rather go overboard on PCT than cut it close and come up short later and have to extend PCT or extend it.
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^ agreed. I'm definitely going to err on the side of caution, especially with this upcoming cycle, as it's my first forray into the PH world.
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I dont feel a pro-hormone will provide enough testosterone to make an imbalance to where you would need nolva. I never had a problem not taking nolva with pro-hormones nor have I personally known anyone who has. I am talking bodybuilders I know around here.

I feel it would be kind of like taking oxycontin for a headache when just good old fashioned aspirin would do the trick.
I would agree with your thoughts on this most of the time, but after running 1-ad in the past, you definitely want something stronger in the PCT dept. OTC will not work as well. 1-ad shuts you down pretty good.
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I Would Go With Nolva Or Clomid No Matter How Tame The Shutdown Is. Why Take Gambles With Your Body. Youve Only Got One. Look After It!!!!!!!!!
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