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Old 04-03-2007, 12:33 AM
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Question Need Trenbolone Enanthate recipe for homebrew

I find an recipe:

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5 grams tren powder
43.75 ml sesame oil
2.5 ml Benzyl Alcohol = 5%
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 gauge needles
mixing Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach Whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though Whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through Whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 100mg/ml
But I have some question:

1) I heard that Tren powder have very bad solubility and require BB. It is true?

2) I heard that compound of oil and Tren powder disallow to heat higher 50 degrees of Celsius (122 F). In a different way form toxic agents. It is true?
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:30 AM
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I find an recipe:



But I have some question:

1) I heard that Tren powder have very bad solubility and require BB. It is true?

2) I heard that compound of oil and Tren powder disallow to heat higher 50 degrees of Celsius (122 F). In a different way form toxic agents. It is true?
No actually tren is fairly easy to go into solution... Bad compounds would be primo, 1-test.

Tren enan actually goes into solution better then test enan... and will hold at higher concentrations... but it's my experience there is usually a few specs of compounds in tren that won't go into solution... i consider those specs to be the impurities found in most tren powders, more or less depending on quality. Depending on the purity of your powder, these specs of crap, can quite easily plug up whatman filter if your filtering more then 30-50ml... but I doubt you'd have problem with less then that amount. Vacuum filtering through a membrane is much easier from that stand point.

As for BB, use it.. BB is not a painful ingredient and infact brings the pain issue closer to tolerance... So don't be affraid to use it.. just substitute 10ml of bb with 10ml of oil.


I wonder if your talking about how tren oxidizes and becomes dark in colour... obviously there is some corollation between heat, oxygen and the colour. either way, you will need to heat the oil/bb/ba solution up to a certain point that will allow the tren to go fully into solution, and that temperature is most assuredly hotter then the average summer day in texas (122F).... How brown your tren will turn, has more do to with how much oxidation has already taken place in the powder itself... I've had tren ace that when new will be slightly off green (when in solution) in colour when it's new, that a few months later turned out to be a dark brown in the next solution i made. And in both cases it worked equally well.

As for using store bought oil, and sterylizing in muffin pans.. and the method of heating you quoted.. I don't really agree with.. I'd suggest spend a bit of money and get some pre sterylized oil, and Use a boil hot water bath for your vial, it's far less likely to burn bits of hormone on the bottom of your vial.
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No actually tren is fairly easy to go into solution... Bad compounds would be primo, 1-test.

Tren enan actually goes into solution better then test enan... and will hold at higher concentrations... but it's my experience there is usually a few specs of compounds in tren that won't go into solution... i consider those specs to be the impurities found in most tren powders, more or less depending on quality. Depending on the purity of your powder, these specs of crap, can quite easily plug up whatman filter if your filtering more then 30-50ml... but I doubt you'd have problem with less then that amount. Vacuum filtering through a membrane is much easier from that stand point.

As for BB, use it.. BB is not a painful ingredient and infact brings the pain issue closer to tolerance... So don't be affraid to use it.. just substitute 10ml of bb with 10ml of oil.


I wonder if your talking about how tren oxidizes and becomes dark in colour... obviously there is some corollation between heat, oxygen and the colour. either way, you will need to heat the oil/bb/ba solution up to a certain point that will allow the tren to go fully into solution, and that temperature is most assuredly hotter then the average summer day in texas (122F).... How brown your tren will turn, has more do to with how much oxidation has already taken place in the powder itself... I've had tren ace that when new will be slightly off green (when in solution) in colour when it's new, that a few months later turned out to be a dark brown in the next solution i made. And in both cases it worked equally well.
Ok. Thanks bro.

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As for using store bought oil, and sterylizing in muffin pans.. and the method of heating you quoted.. I don't really agree with.. I'd suggest spend a bit of money and get some pre sterylized oil, and Use a boil hot water bath for your vial, it's far less likely to burn bits of hormone on the bottom of your vial.
I`ll plan to heat beaker (with oil + powder) in boiling water. Can I avoid burn of hormone (Tren) by this way?
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Ok. Thanks bro.



I`ll plan to heat beaker (with oil + powder) in boiling water. Can I avoid burn of hormone (Tren) by this way?
ive made tren using that same recipe as in your first post

the only way to make the tren powder completely dissolve in the solution (after its all made up) is to put it in the oven for 30-45 mins.

i used to put the vial in boiling water before shots... it made it dissolve but only temporarily. the oven is permanent
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I`ll plan to heat beaker (with oil + powder) in boiling water. Can I avoid burn of hormone (Tren) by this way?
yeep, that's fine.
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ive made tren using that same recipe as in your first post

the only way to make the tren powder completely dissolve in the solution (after its all made up) is to put it in the oven for 30-45 mins.

i used to put the vial in boiling water before shots... it made it dissolve but only temporarily. the oven is permanent

Actually that's not true... if that was the case, I'd be worried it would crash easily later. It should have to get that hot to completely dissolve... and it should dissolve in a boiling water bath. (lightly boiling)...

You may of just had less then perfect tren enan powder? Not sure...
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i used to put the vial in boiling water before shots... it made it dissolve but only temporarily. the oven is permanent
Oh I understand now... you had some tren that was partially crashing... I've seen this... only suggestion is, up the bb (20-22%).. and knock the ba up a few percents.... from 2.5 to 3.5-4%.. If it was just slightly crystalizing, i'd imagine you were on the edge of a stable solution..
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Thanks for advices.
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Actually that's not true... if that was the case, I'd be worried it would crash easily later. It should have to get that hot to completely dissolve... and it should dissolve in a boiling water bath. (lightly boiling)...

You may of just had less then perfect tren enan powder? Not sure...
yeah not sure, tried several times in boiling water only really lasted a day before it crashed. its been at least half a year now since it was oven'd and hasn't crashed.. so it is true!!!

in saying that i think my kettle at the time was broken and not boiling properly, i THINK
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Lucky me I found this thread. So this is the deal, I got the following:

5g tren a.
5g deca.
5g bold unde.
5g meth e.

I am having a hard time getting the BA; they cant ship it from the only place I found it (I´m in South America, by the way). Now the BA is important to keep the injectable from growing microorganisms (and as the solvent), but I was wondering if I can use the BB instead, in a 5 to 10% concentration, or is this crap too toxic?

Could I use the BB as a solvent for the four bases mentioned above? Or will it cause me the -tren- cough or something more serious like blindness.
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its not that BB is to toxic it serves an entirely different purpose than BA, as you said BA is a great solvent and prevents bacterial growth. BB is mainly used to reduce viscosity. i don't now if some **** went down since i have been gone but BA was readily available last i checked
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I find an recipe:



But I have some question:

1) I heard that Tren powder have very bad solubility and require BB. It is true?

2) I heard that compound of oil and Tren powder disallow to heat higher 50 degrees of Celsius (122 F). In a different way form toxic agents. It is true?
the recipe you quoted was for trenbolone acetate and a couple of the old kitmaker (used with the conversion of finaplix) used only BA as their "magic solution"
BB is liking to an emulsifer, improving the stability of the parent hormone and antiseptic quality to it
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