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03-20-2007, 02:51 PM
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halodrol liquigels
This is the next supplement I am going to try... I have read many threads on it... some say "Yeah! I like it and would buy it again!"...some say "Crap! Pure Crap! Just send your money to me you moron"...
Yes, Yes... I understand it isn't nowhere close to the old Halodrol-50... but that is fine as I don't want to do a PCT anyways.... Thinking I will start it up about the first week of April... next week I have a wierd schedule...so will go off of everything, except multi, and detox. Anyone that has actually tried HLG for a cycle, please chime in... 
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 03-20-2007 at 03:40 PM. 
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03-20-2007, 03:10 PM
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you dont have to do a pct, i never knew this...... i thought the liqugels were the same as h50 but kind of a sh.t version. never researched the liqugels before... how do they work then??????
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th e y say mas tu rb a t io n eff e ct s th e abil i t y to r ea d thin g s pr o perly.
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03-20-2007, 03:21 PM
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From what I have read, Haladrol 50 was a pro-hormone that was banned, so Gaspari came out with Haladrol Liguigels to replace it... which is no where near as effective as the "steroid"...go figure...
Difference between 50 and LG (taken from Gaspari Nuritrion): "Q: What is the difference between Halodrol-50 and Halodrol Liquigels? A: Halodrol-50 is no longer made or distributed by Gaspari Nutrition. Halodrol-50 was strictly a prohormonal product. It has been replaced by Halodrol Liquigels which is predominantly a non-prohormonal product (Halodrol Liquigels does contain DHEA which is a DSHEA compliant prohormone to testosterone). Halodrol-50 contained 1 (one) active ingredient only (the prohormone) while Halodrol Liquigels contain 5 (five) active ingredients of which only 1 (one), DHEA is a prohormone. Thus, 80% of Halodrol Liquigels is non-prohormonal (the product contains Arachidonic Acid*, an anti-aromatic, an Russian ecdysterone, and a SHBG effector as well as DHEA). " Gaspari Halodrol LG HLG Chemical write-up I have read on numerous thread and places that no PCT is needed.. however, the gaspari site recommend Novedex XT as a PCT...another Gaspari product, so go figure....
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 03-20-2007 at 03:27 PM.
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03-20-2007, 05:01 PM
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Halodrol liquigels are terrible!!! I took them and got no results and I had my sh!t together too...I got them for a good price so I thought why not but they are useless...The good reviews about them are actually reviews on H-50 but put under the liquigel name...lots of the websites still have the H-50 description and reviews under the liquigel title...DHEA wont do much if anything for you and that acid I dont feel like looking up the spelling wont do much either...X-factor has that acid in it and atleast you get twice as much for the price with it...Anyway I wouldnt recomend it to anybody and no you dont need PCT
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03-20-2007, 05:22 PM
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Taken from BB.com:
"General Expectations of HLG Although each individual experience with any supplement is unique, if you're wondering what you may experience or feel from using Halodrol Liquigels™ for 40 days (the suggested cycle length) we're happy to tell you. Below is what the "typical person" can possibly expect if they have a proper workout/training program and a good, solid diet set for gaining mass - Day 1-7: You will begin to notice perhaps your skin is getting a little more oily; strength and endurance starts to increase although no significant changes in body mass are noted yet. Recovery time post work out starts to decrease. Day 8-15: Strength will increase quite noticeably and skin may become more oily. Endurance increases significantly. Slight changes in both LBM (up) and adiposity (down) might be observed. Recovery time is further decreases although some transient muscle pain might be observed from now until the end of the cycle due to the effects of Arachidonic Acid. Day 16-30: Strength, endurance and lean mass change (up) noticeably. Acne and perhaps increased libido is noticeable. Body starts to appear leaner, more ripped. Day 31-40: Strength, endurance and lean mass is approaching maximum for the cycle. Libido changes may be quite common by now and physique is starting to look significantly leaner. " -----------Off Halodrol Liquigels--------------- Day 41-60: The self-tapering biochemical mechanism inherent in Halodrol Liquigels are evident as there is not "crash" or real need for PCT (though we do suggest Novedex XT™ for at least 2 weeks as a precaution for very careful people). Over these 20 days, lean mass and strength gains begin to stabilize (or could possibly still increase slightly) as does overall body composition. Expect to retain 90%+ of any and all gains achieved during first 40 days.
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH
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03-20-2007, 05:29 PM
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I wouldnt use anything with dhea in it. Its a worthless compound because it converts not only to testosterone but also to androstenedione and estrogen and it does it at very UNpredictable rates. You could take it and not put on a single pound of muscle and at the same time go completely bald or grow tits. You just never know what its gonna do. Not worth it to me.
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03-21-2007, 08:55 AM
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03-21-2007, 03:43 PM
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Just ordered that and the Designer Supps HHA stack (RR/ACT)..
Going to try the HLG with my usual daily healthy/high protein eating habits and workouts on T,TH & Sun (rotating upper body/stomach & lower body/back). Plan to start on Mar 31st.
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03-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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The purpose of this "HLG experiement" is to find out what effects HLG, if any, have on my quest for bigger, stronger muscles, using my current daily intake and workout schedule. I am bit of a skeptic on BB supplements, so I want to be able to prove and be able to convince myself that this HLG is actually a good BB product and worth taking again in the future.
I have 2 boxes of HLG in shipment and due in early next week... The recommended dosage is 3 daily... so that 2 boxes is enough for 40 days worth... definitely can't do a study on 20 days of dosing.... Due to my being a bit paranoid about supplements that change body chemistry, I am going to do this "HLG experiement" using the taper-off method and also do a PCT with the rest of the 6-oxo that I have onhand for extra measure... about 7-10 days worth I suspect. Supposedly with HLG you don't need any tapering or PCT and that is fine, but I am over-cautious... I will I post my weight, bf%, sides and comments every Sunday morning on wake-up... also to clear my system a bit of the test boosters I have been taking, on the May 25-30th, I will only be taking my usual multi-vit pak and protein shake(s). HLG dosage plan: Day 1- 37 (Mar31-May6): 3 daily Day 38-40 (May7-9): 2 daily Day 41-43 (May10-13): 1 daily + 6-oxo Day 44+: 6-oxo till the rest of my used bottle is finish (7-10 days) Next update to this will be posted around the 25th.
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 03-23-2007 at 12:02 PM.
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03-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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i wouldn't waste the money. Me and my friend study chemical compounds. From steroids to basic structures like gases and anything else. I will have to look back but i know the atructure of the compound is different and as said before about converting to estrogen and stuff is likely. I would also becareful becasue some thing may affect the liver. Also, not to be a D**K but if the stuff some companies say were true, Muscletech would the the ones leading the way. What i mean is that some stuff is just there to get you interestead. Keep looking into the structure and science aspect, not what people say, everyones body and chemical ratios are different.
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03-26-2007, 11:12 AM
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Roger that GetNPumped... actually I was going off of about 6 logs/testimonials from the bb.com forum.. most of they had decents result, however I understand each body is different... so it seems tempting... and I am just one of the people that just has to know...lol...
--- I take taking a few days off from lifting and most supplements (except multi, no protein or test boosters) this week... I lifted yesterday and blasted my upper body & stomach... So, in prep for this log, I will take this week off, let my body heal, body chemicals stabilize and do a short detox. Weight today was 150.4lbs / 15%bf by caliper. I plan to start taking Halodrol 3x daily starting next sat. Begin lifting again next sunday.
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03-26-2007, 11:19 AM
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Man, if i could just convince ppl to send me their money instead of burning it on useless supps i could retire a rich guy. Granted there are a few products out there that work but 99% of them are garbage, HLG included.
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5-10 208lbs 10%bf Bench-365 Deadlift-525 Squat-425 Total=1315
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03-26-2007, 12:09 PM
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03-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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This week has been a good break.... no exercise really, except I walked a mile after work to go get my car from the dealer.... big whoop.... Diet stayed the same...only supplement was my multi-vitamin... no protein shakes.. nothing else either... weight this morning was 151.6 / BF at 16%....
--- Sat starts day 1 of the HLG... will be taking 3 a day (on wake-up with protein shake, mid-day with multi-vitamin and right before bed. To keep this log/trial in line, no other supplements will be used, with the exception of maybe an Ergopharm AMP before workout for a energy boost. HLG dosage plan: Day 1-37 (Mar30-May5): 3 daily Day 38-40 (May6-8): 2 daily Day 41-43 (May9-12): 1 daily + 6-oxo Day 44+: 6-oxo till the rest of my used bottle is finish (7-10 days) Workouts will be at 3-4 times a week... with at least 3 (T, TH and most sundays)...rotating upper body/stomach & legs/back... This sunday morning will be the 1st workout on the HLG. -- next update: Sunday afternoon, April 1st.
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04-01-2007, 04:36 PM
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Sunday's Weekly report - day 2
Been on HLG for 2 days now:
Weight on wake-up: 150.6lbs BF: 18.5% by BF scale Workout days: Sunday 9am-upper body & stomach. Sides: None to report HLG opinion so far: Too early to judge Notes: HLG - 3 pills a day. Only supplements are HLG, nitrean protein shake in the morning, 1 GNC thermo burst tablet before this sundays workout. Waiting for Ergopharm Amp to arrive tomorrow. Going to use that for a pre-workout energy booster starting tuesday. -- next update: Sunday afternoon, April 8th.
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 04-04-2007 at 10:28 AM.
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04-03-2007, 12:16 AM
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update - day 3
Got a huge headache about 1 hour after I took the morning pill... right on the top front of my head...like someone was sitting on me... about 12am with lunch & my multi-v pak, I took the 2nd one for the day... by 3, my head was pounding right behind my eyes, like someone had kicked me... at that point I couldn't tell if it was due to the hlg or a sinus issue... all I know is I had a big headache, slight nausea, hot flashes, sensitive to light and moody.... I didn't take the 3rd pill tonight... Sent a few PMs to previous users on BB.com to see about their headaches while on HLG....
I am glad today wasn't a workout day, as I would of never made it... I am going to stay clear until about tomorrow before workout...and then might try 2 on weds to see how that goes... Also got my Ergopharm Amp in today...going to try it tomorrow...
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04-08-2007, 11:24 AM
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Weekly report for Sunday April 8th and 9th day of HLG..
Weight on wake-up: 150.0lbs BF: 18.6% by bf scale Workout days: Last Sun (upper), Tues (lower) & Thurs (upper) Diet: about 2500 cals... high protein, med carbs, low fats, low sugars, alcohol: 2-3 ales a week. Dosage: last Sun 3, Mon 2, Tues 2, Weds 2, Thur 3, Fri 3, Sat 3 Sides: increased back acne (minor), definitely increased doms, no increases head pressure (see notes), no inc/dec of libido, face oiler than usual, increased pumps while working out... HLG opinion so far: Too early to judge Notes: Only supplements are HLG, nitrean protein or N-large II shake in the morning, 1 Ergopharm Amp for a pre-workout energy booster. Monday experienced a big daytime headache, don't know if it was from HLG or just my sinus acting up... lowered dosage to 2 for a few days. No headaches since Monday. Slight sinus congestion & sneezing on sat afternoon evening.. not due to hlg...was working with someone sick on sat morning... --- Next weekly update should be Sunday, April 15th.
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 04-08-2007 at 03:00 PM.
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04-15-2007, 10:03 AM
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Weekly report for Sunday April 15th and 16th day of HLG..
Weight on wake-up: 149.5lbs BF: 17.9% by bf scale Workout days: Last Sun (lower), Tues (upper) & Thurs (lower) Diet: about 2500 cals... high protein, med carbs, low fats, low sugars, Alcohol: had about 5-6 beers this week. Dosage: 3 daily. Sides: doms, some episodes of head pressure near left temple, no inc/dec of libido, face oiler than usual, increased pumps while working out... Supplements: Only supplements are the HLG, nitrean protein or N-large II shake in the morning, 1 Ergopharm Amp for a pre-workout energy booster. HLG opinion so far: strength does seem to be going up faster than usual & muscles seems more firm. not much for body composition change. Notes: No major headaches. --- Next weekly update should be Sunday, April 22th.
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