RPN's HAVOC

[Muscletech]

Anyone know about this new product called HAVOC i have heard it to be 3x better then M1T. How about the ingredients 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol.OTHER INGREDIENTS: Gelatin (Capsule), Microcrystalline Cellulose. I am hoping it will be good **** i am gonna pick up a bottle this week and then i am getting a free bottle of METHOXY TST ingredients 17b-Methoxy-Trienosterone 2mg. PCT product i am gonna use Retain Box Set by Anabolic Xtreme. Plus i will be using Cellmass in addition to 250 grams of protein my bodyweight is 198 lbs. Any feed back would be sweet thanks

[keater824]

how old are you, how long have you been lifting, thats pretty powerful stuff do you know the side effects of your body?

[Muscletech]

Yea i have been lifting for about two years now pretty hard i weigh 205lbs. I am 19. I am benchin a clean 285lbs. So this new product it is strong huh? I just ordered some it should be here on monday or friday.

[CraigC]

Havoc has the same active ingredient as epistane. It is a PH so this should not be in this section. If you look on the sites selling epistane pct is recommended. They recommend you use a SERM so that means no over the counter pct products. At 19 you should not be taking this PH! I'm willing to bet that you do not have a pct planned. Stick to the cellmass and the retain... although since you have ordered it already without any significant research I'd be willing to bet you're going to take it no matter what we say.

[jlozan84]

dude, you are 19.....it isn't wise to take that sh*t at your age. If you aren't gaining or think you are at a plateau, the new PH on the market won't help you.

[Cammo]

Anyone who logs on a BB'ing forum with "Muscletech" as their user name needs their head read - especially a 19 year old considering taking PH's.

Just leave it out.

[laverdad]

I love Cammo's profile picture

[yaboyjjones]

Havoc/Epistane are good products that will give you good results. You really need to wait untill you are 21 or after and make sure you do EVERYTHING to a T when you run a cycle. I would read this here RPN Havoc / IBE Epistane for the newbies ! - Bodybuilding.com Forums
and also check out the logs over at anabolicminds.com . There have been alot of good results.

If you want to try out something else, Try a cycle of Mass FX/Hyperdrol along with Kre-alkalyn. Do about 3,500 of clean cals. a day and make sure you drinking plenty of water. Look into Alpha Drive XL also, It's a great product and can even be used as a PCT.

Peace

[mitchcumstein]

Aahhhhhhhhhh.


Havoc is not a supplement or even a Prohormone, its a full blown steroid. All they did was take Epitiostanol (2α,3α-Epithio-5α-androstan-17β-ol) - which is a controlled substance by the way, and add a 17a methyl group. Its just a matter of time till Havoc is banned.


This is in the wrong section it should be in the Anabolic Steroid section.

Furthermore, BB4u does not condone the use of steroids or Prohormones by those under the age of 21. In before the lock.

[jlozan84]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Furthermore, BB4u does not condone the use of steroids or Prohormones by those under the age of 21. In before the lock.

Unless your usersIDs are Caferacer or rckpytn.......mods will let it slide then. All about selective censorship. lol

[Muscletech]

I mean what are the chances of it actually messing up my body for life. I am planning on takin for a PCT: Anablic Extreme PCT and retain they are good products. I am also planning on taking all the vitiams needed like flaxseed, fish oil etc. So i am thinking for my first cycle of this **** i should be straight and i should see some nice dry gains. I know i am young but you only live once.

[mitchcumstein]

Same chances of messing up your body as if you take test or deca or whatever other steroid, its all the same and the chances are alot higher when youre a teenager. These companies are skirting the law with designer steroids so dont just think cause you can buy it legally that its safe.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by Muscletech

I mean what are the chances of it actually messing up my body for life.

Judging from your lack of knowledge on the subject - quite fvcken high!

Originally Posted by Muscletech

I know i am young but you only live once.

So why not just wait for a couple of years?

[Muscletech]

Yea that is true i guess i will just have to find out the hard way then. Thanks for the feed back i am kind of nervous now to take it but just gotta see what happens now. I will let you guys know what the out come is thanks.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Muscletech

. I will let you guys know what the out come is thanks.

Dont bother. If youre not gonna listen then we dont care.

[Cammo]

There's an idiot born every minute.

[Keyhole]

Originally Posted by CraigC

since you have ordered it already without any significant research I'd be willing to bet you're going to take it no matter what we say.

Well you hit that nail on the head.


To the original poster: Why did you post if you didnt plan on taking any of the advice that was given?

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Cammo

There's an idiot born every minute.

Yep. looking for the easy way out. probably wont even be lifting weights 2 years from now either.

[jlozan84]

I hope you grow tits bigger than your mommy's.

[yaboyjjones]

I mean what are the chances of it actually messing up my body for life. I am planning on takin for a PCT: Anablic Extreme PCT and retain they are good products. I am also planning on taking all the vitiams needed like flaxseed, fish