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06-24-2009, 03:09 PM
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1 take havoc stunt your growth for life and screw your hormonal system but gain 3lb of muscle that will melt in 2 months or 2 train hard ,eat good ,sleep well and grow solid hard gains of 6 lb in 10 weeks and keep the gains ........your choice Last edited by dazza n17; 07-02-2009 at 04:09 PM. 
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06-27-2009, 12:11 PM
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advice needed
i am 20 yrs old and i was also looking into havoc. i decided not to take it because i'm too you and it would do more harm then good. the reason for my post is to ask for advice. i have good muscular development thus far in my life but iwant a more defined look. are there any supplement s out there that would help?
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07-01-2009, 02:20 PM
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Ive come to the fact that i really dislike 90% of guys my age in the gym.. Im 20 y.o and i dont understand why these "kids" (im calling them kids because their acting that way) cant just eat/lift/sleep.. Why do they have to go and do steroids which could F%$@ their body up even worse then they have by improperly training and over training (which once again 90% of people my age do) . When your body slows down making test or you have reached your your peak then you can look into gear if you want to. "ONLY ONE CYCLE... THAT CANT HURT RIGHT??" WRONG!! one cycle means your still putting that in your system and its still being released into you.. Is my generation really that stupid.. Suck it up and do s#!t the right way at our age.. get a good diet good work out plan, stick to it, eat and grow.
p.s sorry for the ranting but you people my age are making our generation look worse then it already looks man.
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07-01-2009, 03:27 PM
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There is a real reasy they say "No guts, no glory".... It is what you put in and what you make of it and there's no getting around paying your dues and putting in the work.
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07-01-2009, 07:46 PM
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i am in no way shape or form looking for an easy way out. I eat very healthy, sleep, and bust my ass in the gym. I am not looking for steroids or anything else of that toxic nature. I have trouble eating a lot of protein in one sitting, so i wasn t sure if there was a type of protein that would help increase my intake of protein. I wasn t clear in my previous post. i agree w both of you that our generation wants their results quickly no matter what the risk. Once again, not looking for easy gains. i enjoy the work ethic required to gain muscle.
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07-02-2009, 12:42 AM
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