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Old 11-13-2006, 03:45 PM
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hello.


this is a real place, in india.
the doctor treats hormone imbalances.

Less Beard Moustache Delhi Treatment Hormone India Deficiency Small Penis Testis New Noida best qualified Indian East West North South Central Gurgaon Faridabad Ghaziabad Less Beard Moustache Delhi Treatment Hormone India Deficiency Small Penis Testi

here is an excerpt from the website:

in short, it gives various testosterone/prohormone treatments to be used alongside hair follicle sensitizers, to help people grow more facial hair.

please read it & consider it seriously.

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1.) Male Hormone Replacement: The various preparation of testosterone & route of administration are:

a) Oral preparation that is available in capsule form. It needs to be given one to three capsules daily. These have no side effects.

b) Transdermal Testosterone given as testosterone gel preparations. It need to be applied any part of skin once a day. It is very effective & has no side effects.

c). Transdermal Testosterone scrotal patch are also available which are very effective even if used in small doses. It is very effective & has no side effects.

d) Sublingual Testosterone cyclodextrin is now available which is very fast acting & very effective is fast & better hair development on face. It is used as one tablet daily to be kept under the tongue for few minutes. It has no side effect and it is very effective.

e) Local application of D.H.T. gel available as Andractim gel is a new preparation for male hormone replacement.

f) Injection Testosterone esters these includes Testosterone enanthate & testosterone cypionate given intramuscular injections every 10 to 14 days.

g) Long acting testosterone as testosterone bucilate given once in 4 months.

h) Testosterones implants are now available which once injected remain effective for up to six months.

2) Medicines to increase blood supply to hair root (Oral & Local Gels): Medical treatment (i.e. prescription of various drugs to increase blood supply to hair root & their rejuvenation etc are given to correct the basic cause found on investigations. These drugs increase the blood supply to hair root so that they if the hair roots are already present they start growing as in normal persons(as they are present in most cases of less beard moustache but are not growing due to various reasons mentioned above). These drugs dilate peripheral small arteries of beard & moustache area so that blood flows into hair root increases. There are various drugs, which are effective to increase blood supply to hair root. The particular drug needed in particular patient depends on the cause of Hair fall. Some time two or more drugs may be needed to be used in resistant cases. These drugs have no side effects. They arte not costly also, the total cost of per month treatment is Rs 300/= per month.
Minoxidil is a well known effective treatment to sensitize hair follicles.
A lot of people have success with it here>

Beard Board - Facial Hair Help - Message Board - ezboard.com

But not many people there know much about prohormones, the effects, and which ones would be the best to use for this end.

Mabe some here DO.

The Indian doctor, in the above quote, lists Cyclo-diol as the most effective for helping grow facial hair.

Unfortunately I cannot get hold of this discontinued product. I tried to find the ergopharm cyclo-diol fizz. No luck.

I have tried proviron & also Andractim gel.
Im currently trying 6-oxo & 1-AD

DHT is supposed to be better at growing facial hair, but I cannot find any 5AA.
Ive considered decca durabol also.

What I would like to know, is if there is any "transdermal" product, or sublingual, one that you would suggest may give the best effects on facial hair stimulation?

If you had to do this...what product would you use, with your knowledge of their strengths & weaknesses?

I have very good effects from the Minoxidil.
& i very nearly have a full beard now, but i just want to give it an extra kick to help it fill in.

& from the doctors site... i need cyclo-diol.

would any of you know of something better than cyclo-diol?



thankyou for taking my post seriously
& for being experts in prohormone knowledge.


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Hi.

Thankyou for your replys.

Sorry you cannot help, or be serious about using prohormones professionaly, to other ends other that muscle building.

(& they are perfectly usefull in other treatments besides building muscle).


Are there any older members on this board who have the prohormone knowledge that is needed to answer the question seriously please.


I was hoping some people might at least find the subject interesting & new.
& mabe even help out.

Thankyou.
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Now im confused.???
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Now im confused.???
This guy has not yet realised he is on a bodybuilding forum, he think he is on a bald guy need help kind of forum!

Hrpiii can you help this guy?
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Me too, is he trying to become a chia pet??? WTF are you wanted to grow facial hair for, **** i wish i didn't have it, **** SHAVING!!
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Hi.

why would you want to grow facial hair?

Why would you want to bodybuild?

because i want to. simple.
& a lot of other guys out there do too. Its important to them. Check the link.

As for being in the correct forum....

>Prohormones and Other Testosterone Enhancers

is the title of this forum.

Im sorry you are not very open minded to this topic.
& that you feel the way you do.

But trolling? Please.
I have written my question out very straightforward & seriously. included all the relevant information & links.

Are there any ADULT members out there with the prohormone knowledge? Or just kids who lurk here & have nothing better to do to reply with pointless unhelpfull replies that are insulting to someone who has taken the time & effort to come here, for help & advice about prohormones.

Im dissapointed with the attitude of the replies so far. Not mature at all.
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Hi.

why would you want to grow facial hair?

Why would you want to bodybuild?

because i want to. simple.
& a lot of other guys out there do too. Its important to them. Check the link.

As for being in the correct forum....

>Prohormones and Other Testosterone Enhancers

is the title of this forum.

Im sorry you are not very open minded to this topic.
& that you feel the way you do.

But trolling? Please.
I have written my question out very straightforward & seriously. included all the relevant information & links.

Are there any ADULT members out there with the prohormone knowledge? Or just kids who lurk here & have nothing better to do to reply with pointless unhelpfull replies that are insulting to someone who has taken the time & effort to come here, for help & advice about prohormones.

Im dissapointed with the attitude of the replies so far. Not mature at all.
Honestly, PH's will do absolutely nothing to grow hair and in fact will do just the opposite if anything. If you are looking to use steroids to grow hair, you are in the wrong place. How old are you anyways? I personally think your attitude stinks... Your posts have nothing to do with bodybuilding...

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thats funny as **** Joe.


Cmon, only an idiot would take a drug cause they wanted its side effects. Reminds me of a skit i saw on Tv or something.
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Honestly, PH's will do absolutely nothing to grow hair and in fact will do just the opposite if anything. If you are looking to use steroids to grow hair, you are in the wrong place. How old are you anyways? I personally think your attitude stinks... Your posts have nothing to do with bodybuilding...
Well hormone and steroid may affect/help for hair growing by accelerating the rate of growth but may also give male pattern baldness.

PH and Roids should not be used for this purpose there is some specific treatment for this kind of problem... But again, why on heart do you want to have more beard? You are muslim and your beard isn't complete???

foolin' around, this thread is funny.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:13 PM
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On a more serious note, this **** should've been posted in the general section. It has nothing to do with bodybuilding.
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You dont seem to be able to get your heads around this & are simply closed minded, not interested & also you are very bored. Have not read my post or links clearly & basicaly "are not interested".

Prohormones ARE used for ASSISTING hair development

AS QUOTED IN MY EXCERPT FROM THE ""DOCTOR"".


all you had to say was....

dont know.
not interested.
dont care.
dont understand

or
go away from 'our' forum because we dont want to help you and are closed minded & are not really interested in helping you, even though your question does indeed regard prohormones.
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if its been proven by your doctor, and people who have taken the PHs have said it's not useful, then why do you want their advise if you are going to automatically take the "doctor's" advise anyway?
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thanks adrian 7.

it is not my doctor. its a doctor in india one of FEW who specialize in this field

& it appears on his website that is IS usefull. just that few people know about this kind of thing or even realized prohormones potential use for it.
the hormones are usualy used in conjunction with other medicines to increase sensitivity of the hair follicles.

Im not taking the doctors advice, OR anyone heres advice.

no-one here has really thought about these type of effects or their potential.
& the info on the doctors site is limited.

I have to investigate this further myself, to learn more.

& coming here is part of my investigation.

just trying to find out why cyclo-diol is better than other prohormones for this use.

is it simply because it is taken sublingualy & effects the mouth/cheeks easier?

or is it just a stronger, longer lasting pro-hormone with better overall effects?


why do YOU think he has suggested cyclo-diol is better for beard growth?

what are his reasons?

what is the profile of cyclo-diol in comparison to the other PH's?

I guess that is a better question to ask here.

Thanks.

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You dont seem to be able to get your heads around this & are simply closed minded, not interested & also you are very bored. Have not read my post or links clearly & basicaly "are not interested".

Prohormones ARE used for ASSISTING hair development

AS QUOTED IN MY EXCERPT FROM THE ""DOCTOR"".


all you had to say was....

dont know.
not interested.
dont care.
dont understand

or
go away from 'our' forum because we dont want to help you and are closed minded & are not really interested in helping you, even though your question does indeed regard prohormones.
You see your PH that you are talking about I don't know any of them being used in bodybuilding purpose. You are posting in the wrong forum in the wrong part of it.

If you wanna discuss the use of roids for hair regrowth go into the DUMP or the General/Serious discution section, it's not a bodybuilding related question.
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:00 PM
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hi.

This topic is in the correct place.

I looked at the main board page.

The section "above it" is for bodybuilding, weightlifting, ect...

This section is for discussion about prohormones.

& this exact forum is for:

This board is for all prohormone related topics. Androstenedione, androstenediol, nors, 1ad, 4ad, and much more...

"& much more"

I dont think you know the way around your own forum. It clearly states as I say that the other sections are more "bodybuilding" related & this forum is purely for discussion on prohormones, steroids & testosterone raising.

The only thing out of place here is that you are obviously shocked & taken by surprise that there are other uses for prohormones besides bodybuilding... & as you are so boxed in on that... you are having a hard time accepting it & accustoming yourself to something new.

& because these other uses for prohormones are rarer.... it is unfortunate that the only places that discuss prohormones are bodybuilding forums currently...
But like i say.... this particular section says people can discuss ANYTHING related to prohormones & testosterone raising. & much more.

I am wanting to discuss testosterone raising.

& discuss available products & their effectiveness at doing so.
& what the best choice is for my particular needs.

I cant see why im getting all this hassle.

If you dont have any help to give in answering my question....
just dont post, or reply. simple.

If you do.. then do.

Why do you have to read the topic... & just cause u dont like it or understand..... begin attacking it & questioning it.



My topic is quite within the listed criteria for discussion in this section.
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Maybe you'd have better luck over at bb.com. Would you rather have a liver or hair? Nuff said! No matter what forum you go to, with this question you will get ridiculed.
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