17-hd

[Santino21]

..i read the ingredients it said something like 17-halo-methyl-........ is that harsh on the liver because its methylated?

[joe526]

Its not a ph, but i think there is debate over the harshness on the liver. I remember a discussion saying it def could be harsh on the liver.

[vassille]

Anything methylated is harsh on the liver regardless, 17-methyl is the one that can cause liver stress.

[NiteHawk]

I had no luck with 17HD. I dont recommend it to anyone.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by NiteHawk

I had no luck with 17HD. I dont recommend it to anyone.

Ditto, I had no luck with it either. It's garbage.

[NiteHawk]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

Ditto, I had no luck with it either. It's garbage.

Yeah, they say you would feel a surge of energy and power with it. I didnt feel a thing.

[mitchcumstein]

From everything ive read, 17hd is a very weak steroid derived from plants or some crap like that. i wouldnt waste my money.

[NiteHawk]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

From everything ive read, 17hd is a very weak steroid derived from plants or some crap like that. i wouldnt waste my money.

Yeah, I got a real good deal on it earlier this year, so I thought I would give it a try..

[virus]

Yeah the reviews (what little I read of it) said its basically worthless...

[hoboken21]

Sorry if I'm not supposed to bump this thread.

But...

I started taking this and have seen increases.

I went from squating 2 45 lbs plates + a 25 lbs plate,on both sides.

And now I'm about to start my second weak,and I do 4 45 lbs plates on both sides.

In other things,I've increased at least 20 lbs.

With dumbbell shugs,I went from doing 70 lbs. dumbbells,to 100 lbs. dumbbells.

I'd just say,try it out for yourself,and see what you think. Although most of the time reviews are helpful,I try not to listen to product reviews because bodies take products differently.

[RRAdam]

It contains a buch of 17-alpha-methyl-halo bullsh1t. Stuff is worthless - you dont need a liver protectant of any kind. There is nothing methylated in that product.

[Merk0135]

LOL, why is 17-hd in the anabolic steroid thread? This stuff is garbage and there isn't anything anabolic about it.

[RRAdam]

Good call... but although its worthless - its still touted as a "testosterone enhancer" which is where those products belong.

[jlozan84]

Originally Posted by hoboken21

Sorry if I'm not supposed to bump this thread.

But...

I started taking this and have seen increases.

I went from squating 2 45 lbs plates + a 25 lbs plate,on both sides.

And now I'm about to start my second weak,and I do 4 45 lbs plates on both sides.

In other things,I've increased at least 20 lbs.

With dumbbell shugs,I went from doing 70 lbs. dumbbells,to 100 lbs. dumbbells.

I'd just say,try it out for yourself,and see what you think. Although most of the time reviews are helpful,I try not to listen to product reviews because bodies take products differently.

I know man.

Last week, I was benching just the bar for reps. This week, I have been shooting tren directly into my pee hole and now I press 315 for reps.

[hoboken21]

Originally Posted by jlozan84

I know man.

Last week, I was benching just the bar for reps. This week, I have been shooting tren directly into my pee hole and now I press 315 for reps.

Uhh Kay!

Anywho,is there anything bad in this stuff.

[Traps]

wow hoboken21, you've made gains that someone on 2grams of gear a week could only dream of. Simply amazing. Whats funny is you cant even add up the weight you squated, you describe it using plates instead of just saying the weight. Lets see....... 2 45's and 1 25 using a 45lb bar equals 275lbs..... Easy I didnt even have to add or use a calculater, I just know. Ok now, lets figure 4 plates on each side.... again easy, I dont even have to add, its 405lbs. So in one week you went from squatting 275 to 405, haha get the FVCK out of here with your E-stats.

17-hd doesnt do sh*t and certainly isnt gonna add 130lbs to your squat in 1 week.

[hoboken21]

Originally Posted by Traps

wow hoboken21, you've made gains that someone on 2grams of gear a week could only dream of. Simply amazing. Whats funny is you cant even add up the weight you squated, you describe it using plates instead of just saying the weight. Lets see....... 2 45's and 1 25 using a 45lb bar equals 275lbs..... Easy I didnt even have to add or use a calculater, I just know. Ok now, lets figure 4 plates on each side.... again easy, I dont even have to add, its 405lbs. So in one week you went from squatting 275 to 405, haha get the FVCK out of here with your E-stats.

17-hd doesnt do sh*t and certainly isnt gonna add 130lbs to your squat in 1 week.

Okay genius,I didn't say I made those gains in a week.

I said I've been taking this product for a week,and now I'm up to that. Maybe,I was able to do that much prior to taking 17HD,but I was holding back.

And the only reason I didn't say how much I squatted,in total,is because some people include the weight of the bar but I wanted to say what I had without the bar.

lol Wow!

I'm lying because I didn't have the total number added up?

OMG,you got me. Please don't report me to the internet king.

[Traps]

Originally Posted by hoboken21

Okay genius,I didn't say I made those gains in a week.

I said I've been taking this product for a week,and now I'm up to that. Maybe,I was able to do that much prior to taking 17HD,but I was holding back.

And the only reason I didn't say how much I squatted,in total,is because some people include the weight of the bar but I wanted to say what I had without the bar.

lol Wow!

I'm lying because I didn't have the total number added up?

OMG,you got me. Please don't report me to the internet king.

I'm not even gonna respond. I'm just gonna ban for 7 days. Reason? Lying and misrepresenting your lifts, and then being a dumbass.