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Old 11-01-2006, 06:59 AM
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The American Journal of Gastroenterology
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doi:10.1111/j.1572-0241.2006.00735.x
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CASE REPORT

Cholestatic Jaundice and IgA Nephropathy Induced by OTC Muscle Building Agent Superdrol

, Beata Jasiurkowski, M.D.1, Jaya Raj, M.D.1, David Wisinger, M.D.1, Richard Carlson, M.D.1, Lixian Zou, M.D.1, and Abdul Nadir, M.D.1

Over the counter (OTC) medicines are commonly used in the United States despite a lack of scientific evidence for clinical utility and toxicity associated with their use. A case of jaundice and IgA nephropathy as a consequence of use of a muscle enhancing OTC supplement that was advertised as innocuous with no hormonal activity is described. IgA nephropathy has not been described previously in association with the use of testosterone. The case highlights that, besides adulteration, the misrepresentation of chemicals present in OTC medications and supplements can create confusion and a false sense of security with their use.



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Old 11-01-2006, 07:13 AM
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Intersting read. 6 weeks is a very long cycle. I wonder how much water he drank.
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Intersting read. 6 weeks is a very long cycle. I wonder how much water he drank.
I think that there are a lot of variables that leave room for error, but we all know how harsh this compound is, so its def plausible.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:16 AM
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It could also very well be the setup for a law suit or several lawsuits to hit AX.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:17 AM
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Sh*t sign me up for some...........lol
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:39 AM
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LOL, sounds like some "fun" stuff, huh. "Fun" to try.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:22 AM
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I think that there are a lot of variables that leave room for error, but we all know how harsh this compound is, so its def plausible.
That's what happen when you don't research carefully what you are going to put in your body.

This is to me a history of ignorance, the guy just didn't do it right at all.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:27 AM
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I wonder if his obesity had anything to do with this? Also, its not a very scientific study if you only use 1 person. Anyhow, i think ill stick to dbol.
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I wonder if his obesity had anything to do with this? Also, its not a very scientific study if you only use 1 person. Anyhow, i think ill stick to dbol.

Good point. There is always that one exception to something.
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That's what happen when you don't research carefully what you are going to put in your body.

This is to me a history of ignorance, the guy just didn't do it right at all.
The problem is, what is there really to research on a new compound. The long term effects are still unknown. I've read articles saying that all the support supps taken are actually hard on the liver and unneeded to some degree.
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:02 AM
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The problem is, what is there really to research on a new compound. The long term effects are still unknown. I've read articles saying that all the support supps taken are actually hard on the liver and unneeded to some degree.
There's the why of drinking tons of water, taking liver supps (RALA, milk thistle, etc.)

If you are so afraid of taking anything, don't take anything, but let the freedom to those that want to?

Do you think that all AAS have long term effect study??? or even the support pills we take?? No but there's ton of info about log, people doing bloodwork, chemist that tell us how the body use it... etc... etc... etc...

There will always be an unknown risk to about anything.
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There's the why of drinking tons of water, taking liver supps (RALA, milk thistle, etc.)

If you are so afraid of taking anything, don't take anything, but let the freedom to those that want to?

Do you think that all AAS have long term effect study??? or even the support pills we take?? No but there's ton of info about log, people doing bloodwork, chemist that tell us how the body use it... etc... etc... etc...

There will always be an unknown risk to about anything.
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The BMI numbers don't necessarily = obesity. People tell me I look like a runner yet I have high BMI because I have more muscle mass than most people at my height. (not sure, maybe there was other data in there that mentioned obesity). Also note that he tested positive for hepatitis A on page 1 - I'm not a doctor but wouldn't that have something to do with the effect of SD on this guy ?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this stuff should be available OTC. Too easy to screw yourself up. BTW, I dabbled with AAS some in the past, when 4AD and 1-Test were sold OTC. Part of the reason for this report is that doctors really hate people medicating themselves with OTC stuff.
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