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Default Slight nipple soreness.

As some of you know I am on my third week of test e and EQ and I have just started taking superdrol for two days now. Well today I felt my nipples and if I really press down on them the IS some soreness. I have Nolva, Toremifene and Rebound XT on hand. What would be the best thing to take while on cycle for gyno prevention?
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As some of you know I am on my third week of test e and EQ and I have just started taking superdrol for two days now. Well today I felt my nipples and if I really press down on them the IS some soreness. I have Nolva, Toremifene and Rebound XT on hand. What would be the best thing to take while on cycle for gyno prevention?
You just need to control aromatization to control gyno symptoms. Nolva will do, but something like ldex or letro would be the best bet to control estrogen and possible side effects from it.

If it gets more sore, then hit it aggressively with nolva until it subsides.
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I used the nolva at 10mg today is that about right?
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I used the nolva at 10mg today is that about right?
20mg is a pretty standard PCT dose. I have taken 40mg for a week or two before and it stopped the problem.

Ya gotta be aggressive with it dosing wise and knock it out quick. Once gyno is there, it's not going to leave if you give it chance to stick around long enough.
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That;s why it is wise to take 10mg Nolva ED while on test. Now, unfortunately you need to take like Cafe said 40mg nolva for 1-3 weeks to make sure gyno is gone. However, some nipple soreness is fine as long as it goes away in a day or two. I've had nipple soreness during cycles but is for a day and then goes away. If there are lumps forming nolva is the best in stopping it from forming. You can use Arimidex or similar compounds but it will throw your cycles upside down since estrogen will be all but non existent with a nolva/arimidex combo
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SD made my nipples sore on all the cycles i've ran with it. Traps praised rebound-xt when he had his gyno problems. Maybe he will give his insight but i agree with the above.


Start using some of the nolva.
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SD made my nipples sore on all the cycles i've ran with it. Traps praised rebound-xt when he had his gyno problems. Maybe he will give his insight but i agree with the above.


Start using some of the nolva.
NO !!!! HAHAHA My final conclusion was it made it worse!!!!
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NO !!!! HAHAHA My final conclusion was it made it worse!!!!

I dont know sh*t about how gear/receptors and all that jazz works but I figure when the binding to the aromatze<sp> enzyme wears off, you have an abundance to convert test to estro, causing a rebound effect. Thats my theory anyway...


While on the rebound the mass started to go down. Towards the end of the cycle it started coming back a little bit. About a month after the cycle it would flair up real bad. I havent done anything in a year and the mass(slightly under and to the outside of nipple) has almost gone away. Although I still have this fuggen tumer or hard fatty tissue in my upper right pec near armpit that fluctuates in size on a daily basis.

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I dont know sh*t about how gear/receptors and all that jazz works but I figure when the binding to the aromatze<sp> enzyme wears off, you have an abundance to convert test to estro, causing a rebound effect. Thats my theory anyway...
Yea thats the way it works with any kind of AI and I think SERM to an extent. You have to taper dosage to let your estrogen levels gradually return to normal and minimize the rebound.

I know I learned this the hard when I used letro. Killed all the gyno, and when I stopped I did it without tapering from using 1.25mg ED. I had mad water retention and the gyno started to come back. Now I know better.

When using an AI taper the end.
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I dont know sh*t about how gear/receptors and all that jazz works but I figure when the binding to the aromatze<sp> enzyme wears off, you have an abundance to convert test to estro, causing a rebound effect. Thats my theory anyway...
You are right Traps, it is very easy to have a rebound effect. That's why when adjusting up or down estrogen it needs to be done SLOWLY as to give the body time to adjust. You need some estrogen in your body to make gains though so a balance needs to be found. Some ppl think that by letting estrogen be free they will have better gains, however controling estrogen not only makes the body more stable in terms of gyno and such but recovery is better as well.
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Yea thats the way it works with any kind of AI and I think SERM to an extent. You have to taper dosage to let your estrogen levels gradually return to normal and minimize the rebound.

I know I learned this the hard when I used letro. Killed all the gyno, and when I stopped I did it without tapering from using 1.25mg ED. I had mad water retention and the gyno started to come back. Now I know better.

When using an AI taper the end.

Yeah...I tapered the rebound but I must have run it too long, cuz towards the end my nips were tingly like on the m1t...I get a bottle of reloaded i'm starting tomorrow. I have tamoxifen on hand.
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There are no lumps at all just a soreness when I really started pressing on the nipple.
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There are no lumps at all just a soreness when I really started pressing on the nipple.
Yea I got that earlier in this cycle. You can either keep an eye on it since there aren't lumps yet, or run some nolva.
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There are no lumps at all just a soreness when I really started pressing on the nipple.
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There are no lumps at all just a soreness when I really started pressing on the nipple.
Then just start taking nolva 20mg for a few days then take 10mg ED for the rest of the cycle.
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stop tweak'n your nipples LOL..... seriously start tamoxifen right now.
I did earlier today I don't know how fast it takes to work but I swear the soreness seems to have reduced already.
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I did earlier today I don't know how fast it takes to work but I swear the soreness seems to have reduced already.
do you have nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate?
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Wow, you all are estrogen factories fellows.....What are you going to do when combining some other compounds? Be very careful IMO
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do you have nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate?
tamoxifen citrate. The liquid form, I just took 10mg earlier today.
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Dont get me started vassille. I'm all emotional today. I've been having hot flashes and I think I'm starting my period!!
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