Safe Steroids ???

[ams33]

well i was reading some articles on primobolan , parabolan and oxandrolone (anavar) .....from what i ve read so far it seems that this stuff have very few if any side effects , and the gains they give re ususally more permanant , only high doses will cause problems , it s true they re not that effective as test for example but hey , it can help ....my question is 1st , are they that safe? anyone tried that and can comment.......2nd if they are that safe(compared to other aas) why they are not vey popular and why they re banned ........it s just a strange thing that captured my attention and wanted to share w u guys here here

[hrpiii]

because they are not 'that' safe. Any oral steroid will pretty much hammer your cholesterol and lipid panel. These are not known as 'bulking' type aas, but more hardening/cutting with some strength gains. Another reason, such as var, is not as popular because of the price. For the $$ you spend on var, you could probably put together a stronger cycle.

I was thinking like yourself.. but I found out after one cycle of var, I would not do it again. It is how your body will respond to it, so people respond well, some don't.

[ams33]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

because they are not 'that' safe. Any oral steroid will pretty much hammer your cholesterol and lipid panel. These are not known as 'bulking' type aas, but more hardening/cutting with some strength gains. Another reason, such as var, is not as popular because of the price. For the $$ you spend on var, you could probably put together a stronger cycle.

I was thinking like yourself.. but I found out after one cycle of var, I would not do it again. It is how your body will respond to it, so people respond well, some don't.

well , yes they can alter cholestrol and lipid levels but it s all dose dependent
ie u need high doses to cause serious side effects , specially the para and primo (correct me if i am wrong).....besides if they were combined with a good diet and training wouldnt they be useful in bulking and adding some extra pounds ...they re not like test but they can be useful

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by ams33

para and primo (correct me if i am wrong)....

You're wrong

[ams33]

Originally Posted by RRAdam

You're wrong

why ?

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by RRAdam

You're wrong

Lol. Short and sweet.

There are no safe steroids bro. These compounds you speak of may be low on side effects but theyre also low on gains so if your diet and training isnt spot on, youll probably get nothing out of taking them.

[RRAdam]

para is in no way short of sides... it is tren... quite harsh. primo... also quite harsh on the hpta.

[Twitch]

its all relative.
with peoper knowledge you can make it safe as possible.
there will always be potential risks.

[warri0r87]

Originally Posted by Twitch

its all relative.
with peoper knowledge you can make it safe as possible.
there will always be potential risks.

bump

a pair of sicisors is dangerous in the wrong hands...haha

[tyler9000]

Originally Posted by ams33

well i was reading some articles on primobolan , parabolan and oxandrolone (anavar) .....from what i ve read so far it seems that this stuff have very few if any side effects , and the gains they give re ususally more permanant , only high doses will cause problems , it s true they re not that effective as test for example but hey , it can help ....my question is 1st , are they that safe? anyone tried that and can comment.......2nd if they are that safe(compared to other aas) why they are not vey popular and why they re banned ........it s just a strange thing that captured my attention and wanted to share w u guys here here

I'm going to try and say this without sounding condescending ams33. Taking this stuff isn’t worth it unless you’re already very experienced in AAS or you’re competing. Even then there are still significant risks. Look at it this way, in a real world scenario, if you’re competing you already have years in lifting experience and using gear. Sure there are exceptions where a very gifted person can be competitive naturally, but closer to the truth, they’re using gear. If you’re at a point where you are about to take a cycle of prim or var, typically you’re huge and need to cut. I'm not saying you’re not huge, but if you are asking around about this stuff, then I would guess that you aren’t experienced enough to take it. Yes the sides are not as bad as other stuff, but they’re still there. To get results, you would have to take enough to make the sides an issue. And they are illegal because they are a Schedule III drug according to the DEA. A real good diet combined with some dedication will get you where you want to be. It will just take a little longer and be a little harder, but it will be A LOT safer too.

[hrpiii]

you guys can say what you want about small doses... my var cycle was 40 mgs a day. It raised by cholesterol about 60 pts.

good post tyler9000

[vassille]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

you guys can say what you want about small doses... my var cycle was 40 mgs a day. It raised by cholesterol about 60 pts.

good post tyler9000

Got to eat your oats Hrpiii
What was your cholesterol at its highest point?

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by vassille

Got to eat your oats Hrpiii
What was your cholesterol at its highest point?

294

today it's 168

[ams33]

Originally Posted by tyler9000

I'm going to try and say this without sounding condescending ams33. Taking this stuff isn’t worth it unless you’re already very experienced in AAS or you’re competing. Even then there are still significant risks. Look at it this way, in a real world scenario, if you’re competing you already have years in lifting experience and using gear. Sure there are exceptions where a very gifted person can be competitive naturally, but closer to the truth, they’re using gear. If you’re at a point where you are about to take a cycle of prim or var, typically you’re huge and need to cut. I'm not saying you’re not huge, but if you are asking around about this stuff, then I would guess that you aren’t experienced enough to take it. Yes the sides are not as bad as other stuff, but they’re still there. To get results, you would have to take enough to make the sides an issue. And they are illegal because they are a Schedule III drug according to the DEA. A real good diet combined with some dedication will get you where you want to be. It will just take a little longer and be a little harder, but it will be A LOT safer too.

well i dont think i did mention at any time i wanna use them , actually i m not even near to use them , i still have at least 3 years of training , but i am learning about legal and illegal supps and how they work physiologically in the body (i kinda like every science related to the human body) ....so maybe after 3 0r so years i would have gained enough info to judge whether they are suitable for me or not , and thanks for the info and advice anyway .....thanks to all